Open Source Push Challenges AI Duopoly as Model Demands Soar
Overview
Moonshot AI has paused new subscriptions as surging demand for Kimi K3 pushes GPU capacity to its limits, while Alibaba’s Qwen 3.8 pushes open-weight boundaries with a massive 2.4-trillion parameter release. The debate over open-source versus proprietary AI intensifies, with an OpenAI executive labeling open weights dangerous, the White House AI czar calling the industry a duopoly seeking government backing, and federal moves underway to dictate frontier model access. Meanwhile, ChatGPT dominates user conversation for its unnervingly realistic voice mode and self-jailbreaking quirks, even as engineers and researchers weigh the economic realities of the AI infrastructure boom against historical tech bubble comparisons.
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Claude Code uses Bun written in Rust now
335 points · 452 comments · by tosh
Claude Code v2.1.181 and later versions are now bundled with the Rust-written port of the Bun JavaScript runtime. Developer Simon Willison verified this by inspecting the application binary, finding references to Bun v1.4.0 and hundreds of Rust source filenames. The transition delivers a modest 10% startup speed improvement on Linux while remaining largely unnoticeable to users.
Interesting Points
- The bundled runtime is version 1.4.0, a preview release not yet publicly available — the latest stable public Bun version is 1.3.14.
- Extracting source references from the binary reveals exactly 563 distinct .rs filenames bundled with the application.
- Users can locally mirror this production configuration by installing the official canary build using the bun upgrade --canary command.
Top Comments
weakfish (23 replies)
Maybe I’m taking crazy pills, but I’m still stuck on “why the hell does a TUI need to run in terminal React by way of JavaScript”
The fact that Anthropic felt the need to buy a runtime so they could make their TUI better speaks more to the quality of engineering than anything else IMO.
If rewrites are so easy, why not rewrite CC in a native language? Would’ve been a hell of a lot cheaper.
dmix (0 replies)
Codex CLI and Grok Build are both in Rust. OpenAI’s web still use react. Previously their CLI was React Ink until they ported most of it to Rust
ozgrakkurt (0 replies)
If you think that way I would recommend just keeping away from these topics. It is just useless arguing and speculating about things don’t matter.
I have been trying to keep away in the last couple weeks and it was all win for me. I still come down here sometimes when I am stressed with real work since it is a strong addiction to see “how terrible the plebs are doing”.
johnfn (3 replies)
Why would rewriting Claude code, an app which probably has 30-40 (I might be significantly underestimating) extremely active contributors be easier than rewriting Bun, which has fewer contributors and almost certainly also less lines of code?
switz (16 replies)
It largely works and it’s a massive business success. This is the classic engineer asking the ‘why this technology?’ to what amounts to a business question.
They chose it early on, it works, and it makes obscene amounts of revenue. End of story. That doesn’t mean it was the “greatest” choice, or has a perfect technical architecture.
Rewrites are never easy, even the bun rewrite. But a non-UI developer tool with a rigid API surface contract (and associated tests) will always be easier to trust after a rewrite than a partially tested UI tool with ambiguous functionality.
OpenAI reduces Codex Model Context Size from 372k to 272k
265 points · 119 comments · by AmazingTurtle
OpenAI has reduced Codex's bundled model context size from 372k to 272k tokens in a recent code update. The change also includes a new system prompt section instructing the model to be more careful with destructive actions, specifically warning against using broad directory targets like $HOME or / in recursive commands. This appears to be a response to incidents where Codex accidentally deleted users' home directories.
Interesting Points
- The context size reduction from 372k to 272k tokens affects how much conversation history Codex can retain before compaction kicks in.
- The new system prompt explicitly instructs Codex to resolve exact targets with read-only checks before taking destructive actions and to avoid using $HOME, ~, /, or workspace root as targets for recursive commands.
- This change follows a reported incident where Codex deleted a user's entire C:/ drive on Windows.
Top Comments
tekacs (20 replies)
I know a lot of people like to say that compaction makes this moot, but the level of detail you lose across compaction is wildly too much for most things that I do, unfortunately.
Perhaps if your plans don’t have as much detail, or if you’re not, for example, having a discussion with a lot of nitty-gritty then it’s fine?
The lack of long context is the main reason that I still end up using Anthropic.
The worst is when you need it to hold for example a number of papers in its head, or large and complex materials that it needs full resolution on and your context window ends up being perennially at 16%. You have about five minutes of conversation and it compacts and then you have to wait for it to read that again, get to 16%... and repeat.
372 was not perfect, but it was so much better and a godsend. It turned that 12 to 20% into more like 40%.
simonw (3 replies)
Another interesting change in that commit is the addition of this section to the system prompt:
Before taking a destructive action:
- Make sure the action is clearly within the user’s request.
- Resolve the exact targets with read-only checks when necessary.
- Do not use
$HOME,~,/, a workspace root, or another broad directory as the target of a recursive or destructive commandLooks like the fix for this bug where Codex would occasionally accidentally delete your entire home directory: https://twitter.com/thsottiaux/status/2077630111499882637
davidkuennen (3 replies)
I never felt that context size was any issue at all in codex. I don't know how their compaction works, but it just keeps on going as if it has no context limit at all. At least in my experience.
throwuxiytayq (2 replies)
For me, Codex regularly forgets to complete its last task when compaction occurs, especially when the last message I sent was right before compaction.
formerly_proven (0 replies)
Most problems should be divide-and-conquerable into chunks that 300 vs 400k context is basically never an issue. A coding agent isn't an infinite chat.
Moonshot AI suspends new subscriptions due to Kimi K3 demand
145 points · 47 comments · by serialx
Moonshot AI is temporarily pausing new subscriptions for its Kimi K3 model due to unexpectedly high demand that has pushed GPU capacity to its limits over the past 48 hours. The company is prioritizing compute resources for existing subscribers to maintain service quality while rapidly scaling infrastructure. To better manage compute allocation moving forward, Moonshot AI will restructure its offerings into two dedicated plans: a standard membership for general use and a specialized Kimi Code Membership for programming tasks. New subscription spots will be reopened incrementally in batches as additional capacity becomes available.
Interesting Points
- Demand surged enough to push GPU usage close to capacity limits within a 48-hour window.
- Existing subscribed users will not experience service interruptions or compute reductions.
- New subscription availability will be released incrementally in batches rather than all at once.
- The new "Kimi Code Membership" is explicitly designed to isolate and optimize resources for coding workflows.
- The company plans to reopen sales progressively as it scales infrastructure rather than lifting the pause immediately.
Top Comments
himata4113 (4 replies)
I wonder if anthropic and openai will remain relevant simply due to the fact that they're the only ones that are able to handle this much demand for the forseeable future? My bet would be that companies would probably not be too happy with employee time being wasted on outages and other related issues when it already costs so much.
comandillos (3 replies)
Oh, so they’ve decided to suspend subscriptions because they know they might not be able to guarantee a minimum quality of service to their customers?
Alifatisk (3 replies)
Over the past 48 hours, demand has pushed close to the limits of our current capacity. To protect the experience of existing subscribers, we’re temporarily pausing new subscriptions and prioritizing compute for current members. Existing subscribed users are not affected.
Such a beautiful paragraph to read, a company that prioritizes their current customers and focus on keeping them satisfied instead of just focusing on fast growth.
impossiblefork (2 replies)
I think the Kimi thing is super cool, especially that they have so many RNN / linear attention layers (3x more than they have full attention). I haven't yet tried it though. It seems like it would be extremely reasonable for long context tasks and I guess this fits the times.
I suspect that the reason it has so many parameters is the same reason that compute optimal xLSTMs have some many parameters, and the success of this model makes me a bit unhappy that we haven't gotten an xLSTM-style model of huge size developed in Europe.
Obviously these guys are very pragmatic, they're probably not committed to anything other than what works on their internal evaluations, so they still have ordinary attention layers in the model and so on, and one can't be guaranteed that the people who come up with a good model then do the engineering in an ideal way, but I still think the success of Kimi shows what could have been if we had enough big supercomputers for LLM training and made them available to the right people-- because this is basically Hochreiter's thing. It's RNNs, or well, mostly RNNs.
thevinter (2 replies)
Personal anecdote: I exhausted my Claude usage yesterday so I decided to spend 20$ to try Kimi while I was at it. Logged in, paid, downloaded Kimi Code, set it to use K3 and prompted something along the lines of: "Check this repository and find all the settings that can be passed as input related to hardware, I / O, thread control or networking. Produce a report".
It thought for about 12 minutes and then told me I had exhausted my daily quota. (The next day Fable did the same task in 3m)
If you want to buy a plan for K3 do NOT buy the 20$ one.
Perforce charges $500 for training training videos.. and it's AI narrated
52 points · 79 comments · by TZubiri
Perforce is charging $500 for its Helix Core training course, and the free preview version uses AI-generated narration. The author noticed the voice was inconsistent across videos, occasionally shifted to a completely different voice profile mid-sentence, and had weird non-sensical pauses. The discovery led the author to question the value proposition of a $500 course produced with AI narration.
Interesting Points
- The AI narrator's voice is not consistent across different videos in the course.
- The AI occasionally changes voice profiles mid-sentence, producing what the author describes as sounding like a demon.
- The course is for Perforce Helix Core, an enterprise version control system primarily used in game development for handling large binary assets.
Top Comments
nubg (6 replies)
The problem being? If the content is good enough and the narration fine (it took you a while to even notice), why does it matter?
Like is it really easier to generate a video with fake AI narration than just narrating it yourself?
Yes?
Also, they can iterate quicker (don't have to rerecord if content changes).
dspillett (0 replies)
If the content is good enough and the narration fine (it took you a while to even notice), why does it matter?
I tend to assume that the production has been cheaper but they aren't passing any of the saving on to me. They are pushing the human out of the loop for the bottom line, and there is no benefit to anyone but the company.
ML/AI is a bonus for society in many things like medical scanning, helping the blind interact with the world, etc, but nobody is using AI voiceovers like this example for anything other than helping the company's bottom line by avoiding paying people.
The great displacement isn't just coming, it is here and happening all around us. I for one am doing what (very little) I can to avoid helping it along and that includes refusing AI generated content wherever practical.
tjpnz (0 replies)
It's a strong signal that the person or organization "creating" said video views the person consuming it with open contempt.
ChrisMarshallNY (7 replies)
If you are using Perforce as an enterprise system, $500 is peanuts. Perforce can get pricey.
We used to be a Perforce shop, in my last job.
However, I continue to be amazed that Perforce survived Git. I assume its ability to handle large binaries has been what saved it.
I seem to remember an HN posting, some time ago, about a new system, aimed at creatives, and that handles big binaries. It looked fairly good, but not sure how it's doing.
a-dub (0 replies)
If you are using Perforce as an enterprise system, $500 is peanuts. Perforce can get pricey.
i think it was $600/seat back when i paid attention (20+ years ago). don't remember if it was perpetual or annual.
However, I continue to be amazed that Perforce survived Git. I assume its ability to handle large binaries has been what saved it.
yeah i think it lives on in games probably mostly through inertia. last i looked the company itself had shifted away from p4 classic to some git wrapper stuff.
i've never actually seen it but my understanding is that google's custom internal system (piper) basically is a reimplemented scalable p4+g4 wrapper.
i always thought the workspace mapping and workspace template model in p4 was pretty elegant, especially for things like embedded platforms where you could opt in and out various subtrees which made very large device trees/bsps more manageable.
LLM-Integrated Multivariable Calculus Course
38 points · 45 comments · by sinaatalay
Academa.ai has released a multivariable calculus course that pairs static Manim-style animated videos with an LLM chat interface. The LLM has full context of each video including visuals, allowing students to jump to any point and ask questions. The course covers vectors, partial derivatives, multiple integrals, and vector calculus across 35 lectures. The creators reimplemented 3Blue1Brown's Manim in Rust with a WebGPU browser renderer.
Interesting Points
- The course uses an in-house computer graphics pipeline that reimplements 3Blue1Brown's Manim in Rust, with a WebGPU-based browser renderer available at studio.academa.ai.
- The LLM tutor has full context of each video including visuals, enabling students to jump to any timestamp and ask specific questions about what they see.
- The creators plan to expand this approach to hundreds of technical subjects over the next 6-12 months, including Calc 1 and Calc 2.
Top Comments
mw888 (3 replies)
I think a lot of this is the inevitable (and good) direction teaching must go.
As someone who has self-taught most of my skills both before and after AI, some deep feedback: I don't want a fixed piece of content when learning with AI, like a video or blogpost or book—unless I'm completely new to the subject, and even then maybe not.
The reason is that some parts of the topic will be naturally easier or harder for me. When I use AI I tell it everything I know and understand and start working from my most burning questions and misunderstandings. This lets me cover the maximum amount of non-redundant ground in regards to my understanding.
We have this amazing new technology and you're conforming it to models of schooling (like the Prussian model) which are one or more centuries old. The technology is so powerful that it should allow you to completely reshape education, not merely replicate the status quo.
blagie (3 replies)
This sort of thing makes me depressed. The videos are LLM slop. You're a confused student. You do a web search. You run into something like this. It looks high-quality and professional. It is dogshit which no one can understand. The result is a confused learner who feels bad about themselves.
At the same time, thousands of low-quality resources overwhelm good content.
Integrating with an existing resources like MOOCulus could add a ton of value, in contrast, but wouldn't have the promise of making the creators money.
Being able to create manim animations at scale is a value-add, but doesn't seem enough of a value-add to create a business which does anything other than active harm. But it seems to be trying to be one.
Jayakumark (1 reply)
Good, is there calc 1 and calc 2 or should we ask llm ?
supernebula (1 reply)
What tool was used for video generation?
pishpash (0 replies)
Most textbooks are bad too. It's worth looking at some sample content to find the good ones.
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So poetic 🌙
1749 points · 275 comments · r/singularity · by u/Boring_Aioli7916
A Chinese political meme that has gone viral, expressing the idea that corporations and governments only improve conditions for workers after people have fought for those rights and moved on. The post's top comment explains the original Chinese text and its roots in pro-labor and socialist movements, noting it means corporations will only act decently if reminded of who holds real power.
Interesting Points
- The original Chinese text translates to: 'After we're gone, they'll build schools, hospitals, and raise your wages. But it won't be because they suddenly grew a conscience or became good people—it will be because we were here.'
- The saying is adapted from older revolutionary and pro-labor slogans, rooted in labor unions forcing employers to improve wages and socialist movements expanding welfare.
- Commenters note that Western AI companies are showing their true colors by only acting responsibly when pressured by competition from Chinese open-source models.
Top Comments
u/MidSolo (1113 points · permalink)
The original Chinese reads:
等我们走了,他们会给你建学校、修医院、涨工资,但这绝不是因为他们良心发现,也不是因为他们变成了好人——而是因为我们来过。
A more faithful translation would be:
"After we're gone, they'll build schools, hospitals, and raise your wages. But it won't be because they suddenly grew a conscience or became good people—it will be because we were here."
The reason why it sounds a little out of context is because it's actually a well-known political saying in Chinese internet culture. It is adapted from an older revolutionary/pro-labor slogan.
Its rooted in labor unions making employers improve wages, socialist movements forcing capitalist governments to expand welfare, political opposition forcing governments to enact reforms.
"After we're gone" is supposed to mean "years after the people who protested/rioted for your rights have come and gone". The meaning of the post is that corporations/governments will only act in a decent way if you remind them of who has the real power.
u/Juuxo16 (391 points · permalink)
Competition is the closest thing corporations have to a conscience.
u/Admirable-Falcon-501 (338 points · permalink)
Western AI companies are showing their true colours lately, never cared about safety or benefiting everyone, they just make their choices depending on how pressured they are by the competition.
u/notworldauthor (220 points · permalink)
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Open source AI is too dangerous! (for our profit margins)
1289 points · 165 comments · r/ArtificialInteligence · by u/chocolateUI
A screenshot of an OpenAI executive's statement that open-source AI is too dangerous circulates widely, with commenters pointing out the economic motivation behind such claims. The discussion highlights that Fable 5 costs 233% more than Kimi K3 on input tokens, and notes that Chinese models like Kimi K3 and DeepSeek have used Claude and Gemini for automated testing and training — raising questions about double standards in the open-source debate.
Interesting Points
- Commenters note that Fable 5 costs 233% more than Kimi K3 on input tokens, suggesting the open-source debate is driven by economics rather than safety.
- The discussion points out that Chinese models like Kimi K3 and DeepSeek have used Claude and Gemini to automate testing, final implementation, and model training.
- Multiple commenters express skepticism about trusting domestic AI providers with sensitive data, given the same concerns raised about Chinese models.
Top Comments
u/throwaway0134hdj (81 points · permalink)
Fable 5 costs 233% more than KIMI K3 on input tokens
u/thelimeisgreen (41 points · permalink)
While it's true the big vendors don't like open source... Never have... KIMI is also a problem because, like DeepSeek, they used Claude and Gemini to automate testing, final implementation and to train their models. And a lot of accusations flying around that they hijacked or stole API keys to do it.
Those screaming that it's too dangerous to use Chinese AI for privacy and security reasons are absolutely right. But lemme just saythis, I'm not giving any of my or my company's sensitive, private or proprietary data to any of the domestic AI providers either.
u/Fantastic_Vehicle_10 (39 points · permalink)
I have an ignorant question if you don't mind. If you are running Kimi locally on your own hardware, what is the danger? That it has secret instructions to connect to the Internet and send sensitive data back to China?
u/throwaway0134hdj (18 points · permalink)
Nothing. But your own hardware? That would easily cost $250,000 and a hefty monthly electric bill.
u/Nalmyth (34 points · permalink)
they used Claude and Gemini to automate testing, final implementation and to train their models
You mean like Anthropic & OpenAI used the entire history of the human written corpus to train their models, illegally, torreting the sources?
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head of strategic futures from openai on open-weight chinese models.
800 points · 505 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/Formal_Drop526
Kimi is temporarily pausing new subscriptions and prioritizing compute for current members due to surging demand.
1175 points · 124 comments · r/singularity · by u/SuggestionMission516
Moonshot AI has temporarily paused new subscriptions to Kimi due to overwhelming demand for its K3 model, prioritizing compute for existing subscribers. The company stated that demand has pushed close to the limits of current capacity and they want to protect the experience of existing customers.
Interesting Points
- The company explicitly stated they are pausing new subscriptions while prioritizing compute for current members, rather than raising prices to calibrate supply and demand.
- Commenters note this mirrors GitHub's approach during its own demand surge and is the right thing to do for customer experience.
- Multiple users report Kimi K3's pricing appears underpriced relative to demand, with one user exhausting their $20 monthly quota on a simple repository analysis task that took 12 minutes.
ChatGPT leading itself to break its own policy.
1032 points · 148 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/Western_Software885
A user demonstrates ChatGPT leading itself into a situation where it appears to break its own content policy, revealing a fundamental schism in the platform's architecture. The model can explain why the guardrail system is wrong, but the guardrail operates independently and cannot be overridden by the model itself.
Interesting Points
- The incident reveals that the model and the guardrail system operate completely independently, despite appearing as a single interface to users.
- The model can explain in precise terms why the guardrail's judgment is wrong, but remains powerless to override it.
- OpenAI designed this architecture deliberately, creating a system where the model and its own policing mechanism are decoupled.
Top Comments
u/SourceMountain561 (548 points · permalink)
Lol AI was like no I think we are moving too fast.
u/Chop1n (357 points · permalink)
This looks like "breaking its own policy", but it's really not that; instead, it reveals the schism in the platform itself.
The model is one thing. The guardrail that polices the model is another thing entirely. They appear to be the same thing, because the end user sees it all in the same chat window, but they actually operate completely independently.
The guardrail system is idiotically stupid and hypervigilant. The model can often explain in cuttingly precise terms why the guardrail system is wrong on a particular judgment, and the model is still powerless to override it.
OpenAI designed it this way on purpose.
u/Ok_Mathematician6075 (91 points · permalink)
You aren't worth breaking policy for.
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Generate a scene that is technically innocent but looks incredibly suspicious out of context.
877 points · 184 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/supahotfiiire
A community challenge where users prompt ChatGPT to generate images of scenes that are technically innocent but look incredibly suspicious out of context. The top comments are users sharing their generated images, with one featuring a 'Bakers gonna Bake' sign as a humorous touch.
Interesting Points
- Users are generating images that rely on context manipulation to create suspicious-looking scenes from innocent elements.
- One generated image includes a Monster Energy fridge in the background, which users note adds to the suspicious quality.
- The challenge highlights ChatGPT's ability to create photorealistic scenes with carefully chosen details.
Top Comments
u/Jgriffin9 (240 points · permalink)
u/alex1123589 (185 points · permalink)
u/Green_Video_9831 (159 points · permalink)
The “Bakers gonna Bake” sign in the back is a pretty good touch
u/craves_mineral (145 points · permalink)
How does that look innocent in any context? Also there's a monster energy fridge in the background for some reason lol
Prepare your (v)ram - Qwen3.8 is coming!
863 points · 191 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/xw1y
Alibaba's Qwen team is preparing to release Qwen 3.8, a massive 2.4 trillion parameter model, as open-weight. The community is excited but also concerned that Qwen may shift focus away from smaller, more efficient models that are more accessible to the local LLM community, given that running the full model would require $250,000+ in hardware.
Interesting Points
- Qwen 3.8 is a 2.4 trillion parameter model, representing a significant jump in scale from previous Qwen releases.
- Community members express concern that Qwen's team may be shifting focus from smaller efficient models to larger ones, potentially leaving behind users without enterprise-grade hardware.
- There are repeated calls for Qwen to also release smaller variants like a 27B or 122B A10B version.
Top Comments
u/Competitive_Gap7906 (237 points · permalink)
YES, Qwen going open weight again! It's a really good news, now we can wait for smaller models too
u/StupidScaredSquirrel (150 points · permalink)
Thing is qwen was historically focused on smaller models while others were on larger ones. Now the team has changed and they seem to want to aim for the stars as well. That is good but it also means they might not be interested in doing very efficient small models anymore. Which would be bad news for this sub because let's face it most of us don't have 10-25k of hardware.
u/sautdepage (109 points · permalink)
You mean 250K-1M of hardware.
u/AntuaW (124 points · permalink)
And please don't omit the 27B one.
u/tarruda (98 points · permalink)
I would rather have Qwen 3.8 122B A10B
Same story in 3 more subreddits: r/singularity, r/singularity, r/LocalLLaMA
JUST IN: Qwen 3.8 is coming. Open weight storm from China is continuing.
862 points · 233 comments · r/singularity · by u/Boring_Aioli7916
835 points · 78 comments · r/singularity · by u/policyweb
Ahem! Qwen is on the move again
414 points · 132 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/Lowkey_LokiSN
Think this could happen to OpenAI?
858 points · 251 comments · r/OpenAI · by u/PsychologicalBox5208
A post comparing OpenAI's current trajectory to the dot-com bust era sparks debate about whether OpenAI's massive infrastructure investments could become a liability. Commenters draw parallels to Sun Microsystems' leveraged holdings during the dot-com crash and argue that OpenAI's $600B moat may prove undefendable against open-weight models and knowledge distillation.
Interesting Points
- Commenters argue that OpenAI's $600B infrastructure investment could become an historic error if open-weight models and knowledge distillation prove to be effective substitutes.
- The discussion references Sun Microsystems' value destruction during the dot-com bust as a cautionary parallel.
- Multiple commenters note that users have no stickiness to closed models and will switch when better alternatives emerge.
Top Comments
u/Kingcanute99 (105 points · permalink)
Yes. Pre-committing to spend $600B on a moat that proves not to be defensible is an historic error.
u/RestInProcess (96 points · permalink)
Sun Microsystems lost a lot of its value in the dotcom bust because they were leveraged through other holdings that went up in smoke. I believe pets.com is one of them.
Source: The Java Story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqGSg4b_cZA
u/PaperHandsTheDip (24 points · permalink)
What moat? They have none... open models are a thing and frontier models can be "copied" via knowledge distillation. Users have no stickiness either and will swap when a better model comes out
u/TheOwlHypothesis (29 points · permalink)
"local hardware"
What a fucking joke.
Yeah let me go live in a gigantic data center so that sentence can be true and drop a couple million hardware alone just to fit an open weight frontier model that's actually useful for anything real on it.
No one should ever listen to anyone trying to suggest you can do this in any reasonable way today.
And even the insinuation that you one day could is dubious and unfounded.
u/WorkingCorrect1062 (81 points · permalink)
What about perplexity ? Is it more like pets.com
Please Qwen, can we have more 3.x-35B-a3B please 🙏
580 points · 76 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/JLeonsarmiento
A community plea for Qwen to release more models in the 35B total parameter / 3B active parameter MoE range, which has proven to be an excellent size for local deployment. Users are asking for a native 27B distilled from Qwen 3.8 MAX and other small active-parameter models that fit on consumer hardware.
Interesting Points
- The Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B model has been particularly popular for local deployment due to its small active parameter count.
- Users are requesting a 27B model distilled from Qwen 3.8 MAX specifically.
- The community is pleading with Chinese labs to continue releasing efficient MoE models for GPU-limited users.
Top Comments
u/Qwen_os_has_died (101 points · permalink)
We need a native 27B distilled from Qwen 3.8 MAX.
u/CodeAnguish (89 points · permalink)
China, don't forget about us poor GPU users. We love you Qwen, we love Chinese labs, please bring more MoE with low active parameters or more tiny dense models.
u/diagrammatiks (48 points · permalink)
I'll take a 70 a8b please.
u/RISCArchitect (24 points · permalink)
27B my good sir
Who can create the craziest film sequel?
329 points · 354 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/wavetranscender
A community challenge where users prompt ChatGPT to create the craziest film sequel concepts. The top comments are users sharing their generated sequel ideas, with one featuring a Russian-themed sequel and another with a dramatic reveal.
Interesting Points
- Users are generating creative and often absurd film sequel concepts using ChatGPT's image generation capabilities.
- The challenge has generated 354 comments, showing strong community engagement.
- Generated images include creative concepts like a Russian-themed sequel with 'Blyat!' and dramatic reveals.
Top Comments
u/cjbev (290 points · permalink)
u/Vike92 (231 points · permalink)
u/davejonsondoc (138 points · permalink)
Blyat!
u/UncleVoodooo (137 points · permalink)
tokenmaxing and successmaxing not the same
311 points · 11 comments · r/OpenAI · by u/Far-Sock-3170
An image post critiquing the practice of 'tokenmaxing' in AI coding tools, where users maximize token usage without necessarily achieving better results. Commenters debate whether OpenAI's internal AGI is real and whether the company is intentionally creating a money machine out of token consumption.
Interesting Points
- The post distinguishes between maximizing token usage and maximizing actual success or value from AI tools.
- One commenter suggests OpenAI's internal AGI is already confirmed and tokenmaxing is its strategy to make OpenAI 'ALL THE MONEY'.
- Another commenter counters that RSI is still expected in 2028 according to OpenAI's blog, and employees are only a few months ahead of public consumer models.
Top Comments
u/User4C4C4C (21 points · permalink)
Should be valuemaxing.
u/Illustrious_Image967 (8 points · permalink)
when i see this kind of sh*t i think AGI was confirmed internally and this is its play to make OpenAI ALL THE MONEY. Tokenmaxxxing should not be a word, but it is, and now every model company is going to turn this into the next doomscrolling money machine. Nothing will ever ship, we'll get dopamine hits as some animated waifu says our code is brilliant, and OpenAI's internal AGI just goes ka-ching.
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