Open AI Surges as Claude Disproves Major Math Conjecture
Overview
The global AI race has shifted sharply as China’s open-weight models like Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 outpace US proprietary systems, intensifying debates over American guardrails and potential export bans. In a major cross-disciplinary breakthrough, Claude Fable generated a polynomial counterexample that definitively disproves the decades-old Jacobian Conjecture. Meanwhile, the broader industry faces mounting headwinds, from investor pressure on AI expenditures and surging machine-authored academic papers to workforce layoffs and political backlash over data center expansions.
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American AI is locked down and proprietary. It's losing.
945 points · 765 comments · by benwerd
Ben Werdmuller argues that China's open-weights AI strategy is outpacing America's closed, proprietary approach by turning a compute disadvantage into a distribution advantage. Because foundational models lack a strong technical moat beyond enterprise services, they are easily swappable, making open deployment far more effective for global ecosystem building. The performance gap between US frontier models and Chinese open alternatives is rapidly closing, with Chinese companies now offering comparable capabilities at significantly lower costs. Consequently, the US model risks severe economic fallout if AI spending contracts, as its locked-down business practices fail to align with the collaborative nature of the technology.
Interesting Points
- Foundational models lack a strong technical moat, allowing engineers to swap APIs and prompts with minimal workflow disruption.
- US GPU export controls and data-sharing restrictions have inadvertently forced Chinese developers to prioritize open-weights distribution over centralized global services.
- a16z partner Martin Casado estimates an 80% probability that any given startup is currently utilizing Chinese AI models.
- Chinese firms like Moonshot and Alibaba have released models claiming parity with leading US offerings while operating at a fraction of the cost.
- The US government's reliance on export controls clashes with the historical precedent of open internet infrastructure that fueled broader innovation.
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geophile (44 replies)
The lesson of the last 50 years of the computer and software marketplace is that free and low-end eventually wins.
PCs destroyed minicomputers. Mainframes survive, but serving a much tinier portion of the market than they used to.
PC office productivity software destroyed expensive professional products.
Windows (low end) and Linux (free) completely destroyed the UNIX marketplace, and again, have taken huge market share from the mainframe world.
Ignoring the huge Chinese open-weight models for a moment:
The training costs and resource requirements for frontier models are unsustainable. The high price, and social pushback, mean that the American companies producing these models are precarious.
There are enormous financial incentives for research results allowing for cheaper, less resource-intensive models of high quality.
Local LLMs on consumer hardware are akin to the PC hobbyist world of the 70s and 80s.
Put all of these trends together, and I think that in 10-15 years, we are going to have consumer PCs (and phones!) running models doing pretty much anything that frontier models can do right now.
Getting back to the Chinese models: They allow for new competition against Anthropic and OpenAI, basically SaaS renting out these very capable AIs much cheaper. That will just accelerate trends.
api (2 replies)
The biggest exception is cloud. Big cloud carries an insane markup (bandwidth is like 10000X!) and everyone runs on it.
The strategy there is false openness where deployment complexity is the real proprietary moat. Sure Linux, Docker, Kubernetes, Postgres, and all the other standard tools in the box are open source and free, but they're also arcane and complex to run and hard to make fault tolerant. So you're lured in by "open" and then locked in via a kind of "death by a thousand cuts" complexity moat.
(Personally I hold the view that complexity and arcane-ness beyond a certain point is indistinguishable from closed in practice. Open source that's really complex and hard to run is not open in any meaningful sense.)
AI may not admit that kind of moat though, because AI is very good at slicing through that kind of thing. You can prompt a model to make itself compatible with another model or to change code to make it compatible. There's no moat because the moat bridges itself.
gpt5 (7 replies)
The problem (right now) is that Open Weight models depend right now on huge companies to spend billion of dollars to train and develop them, all backed up by their incentives and their state to support this, while essentially giving away their monetization path.
With open source projects, the benefit was that each individual could improve the complex system (e.g. Linux Kernel) interpedently, and over time the benefits accumulated. With models right now, there is just no way to do distributed training, or really, any large scale parallel way to improve them.
So whatever the short term strategy driving publicizing the model weights (e.g. potentially, to create a price war in order to put pressure on western companies and deprive them of the money they need), we can't ignore the fact that incentives and decisions could easily change in the future, and unless there is a way to truly decentralize models improvements - the party could stop at any time.
Sparkyte (0 replies)
100x this it is why all of the AI giants are going to fail. They are too big and inefficient to scale properly. This is why Google is just casually taking its time in AI and not racing to a finish line. AI is essential but if it already does most things good enough then it can take longer to make it more efficient.
Gareth321 (1 reply)
> Put all of these trends together, and I think that in 10-15 years, we are going to have consumer PCs (and phones!) running models doing pretty much anything that frontier models can do right now.
At current pace, we'll have open weight LLMs with frontier intelligence in 6-12 months. The constraint is RAM - both for the model and the context. It's likely that distillation and quantisation and TurboQuant will significantly reduce RAM requirements. I think we'll have Opus 4.8-like performance on 64GB of RAM in two years.
Of course, by then, frontier intelligence will be god-like.
Claude Fable produced a counterexample to the Jacobian Conjecture
652 points · 419 comments · by loubbrad
The AI model Claude Fable has generated an explicit polynomial counterexample that disproves the long-standing Jacobian Conjecture, a problem that has resisted proof for over half a century. The counterexample is a map from C^3 to C^3 featuring a constant Jacobian determinant of -2, yet it fails to be injective by mapping three distinct points to the same coordinates. The discovery, verified through computational tools including Wolfram Alpha and independent confirmation by the Grok AI assistant, demonstrates that the conjecture's claim regarding polynomial automorphisms does not hold in three dimensions.
Interesting Points
- The polynomial map features a constant Jacobian determinant of -2, directly contradicting the conjecture's assertion that such maps must be invertible.
- Explicit collision points were identified: (0, 0, -1/4), (1, -3/2, 13/2), and (-1, 3/2, 13/2) all map to the identical output (-1/4, 0, 0).
- The z-linear structure of the counterexample bypasses the algebraic degree constraints that historically invalidated human attempts over the past half-century.
- Computational verification via Wolfram Alpha and independent confirmation by the Grok AI assistant validated both the determinant calculation and the point collisions.
- The resolution implies immediate downstream consequences for related algebraic frameworks, specifically suggesting that the Dixmier and Poisson conjectures are also false in their general forms.
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aizk (12 replies)
This is a rare instance where feeding this groundbreaking information into an LLM gives them psychosis. I fed this to claude code and watched it verify the result in 7 different ways to be 100% certain, and it was just flabbergasted. Quite remarkable.
CamperBob2 (5 replies)
Interestingly, even Qwen 3.6 27B was able to verify the solution, but I didn't get any glazing for discovering it. Instead, it thought that someone named Shestakov had already found a counterexample in 2004.
GLM 5.2 whiffed, it insisted the counterexample wasn't valid.
VibeThinker 3B also recognized that the counterexample was valid. But it kept trying to convince itself that it wasn't, over and over, since it's an "unsolved problem." Eventually it just answered "-2."
tacomonstrous (5 replies)
Speaking as a mathematician, it does seem like we're a bit fucked as a community. Anything that is at all accessible to currently existing methods and mathematical infrastructure is probably going to fall to the frontier models of today, and at this rate of progress it's likely that, already by next year, we'll see new infrastructure being put into place by AI, giving us a world in which a few designated interpreters of the oracle get to 'do' mathematics, while it withers on the vine as an avenue for the exploration of human meaning.
jdw64 (5 replies)
I've come to understand that while an LLM is a parrot, it's a parrot that's smarter than I am.
slopinthebag (2 replies)
The author has a PhD in math from Cambridge. If it turns out to be a false claim it is an interesting case study on AI's sycophancy causing even experts to drop their guard and make mistakes.
Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, and Anthropic's (Potential) Unravelling
271 points · 286 comments · by cl42
The recent launches of Moonshot Labs' Kimi K3 and Alibaba's Qwen 3.8 demonstrate that top-tier AI performance is achievable with open-weight models, intensifying competitive pressure on closed-model developers like Anthropic. The article argues that foundation model economics now heavily favor companies that own their data center and power infrastructure, as this strategy converts high variable inference costs into fixed costs and improves long-term margins. Conversely, model-only providers face a precarious future where they must constantly race to lower prices or maintain a performance lead that open alternatives quickly match. Anthropic is highlighted as especially vulnerable due to its high inference costs, reliance on regulatory and ethical positioning, and lack of deep product or infrastructure moats compared to competitors like OpenAI and SpaceX.
Interesting Points
- Anthropic's Fable 5 model costs nearly three times as much per completed task as competing models from OpenAI or open-weight providers.
- Companies that own data centers and power generation convert high variable inference costs into fixed costs, allowing margins to grow with usage.
- Model-only providers face a narrow path to defensibility, limited to recursive self-improvement, regulatory market closure, or uncopyable product stickiness.
- Low barriers to entry in the AI harness space are allowing startups like OpenCode, OpenClaw, and Hermes to rapidly challenge Anthropic's product offerings.
- The recent wave of top-tier releases from China and other labs demonstrates a sustained catch-up pattern rather than a one-off competitive shock.
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LarsDu88 (27 replies)
The open weight, open architecture releases of the past several days has me more convinced that ultimately, the winner will be whoever burns their models to ASICs fastest.
The LLMs themselves are capable of doing some aspects of chip design as evinced by the K3 press release.
Furthermore, the frontier models are "good enough" for a wide swathe of tasks and will soon hit that threshold for a good amount of software engineering (if not already). Does anyone think we need a Mythos level model to plan a road trip, or give someone tips on making a cake recipe?
A Fable 5 model running at 9,000 tokens/s on an ASIC rather than 150 tokens/s on electricity chugging Nvidia GPUs, or even giant SRAM Cerebras or Groq chips could be good enough to meet the majority of demand.
Furthermore, if you're an enterprise the risk of data exfiltration and feeding data to a potential competitor like OpenAI or Anthropic is greatly reduced if you could shift to on-prem ASIC deployments. A handful of chips could cover a wide variety of use cases and cover them more securely. There are a lot of corporate use-cases for LLMs that are not frontier math research or coding.
stillpointlab (7 replies)
I'm not convinced, mostly because things like crypto, which I believe went into ASICs, were based on very slowly moving and mostly understood algorithms. LLMs and model architectures seems significantly more volatile. I wouldn't want to be working out the finer details of my chip rollout only to find a new paper/approach that give multiples of performance.
So I guess it depends on how much the latest-greatest model motivates people, and my read on the current churn is that developers are extremely unloyal to brand at this point and will jump to whoever has the best model. And as long as the best model is running on programmable GPUs, that will be the dominant form.
bko (14 replies)
I think the risk is overstated.
For one, on the margin people are willing to pay a lot for slightly better models. I know personally the value the LLM adds to my workflow is considerably more than the $200/m I pay the frontier labs. I have no interest in optimizing that to get it slightly lower. There are a very vocal minority that optimizes this or companies whose LLM expense is marginal, but I think that's the minority (correct me if I'm wrong, curious what their customer base looks like)
Also the actual LLM is a tiny portion of the value added. Anyone that tried to build agentic solutions from LLM apis quickly realizes that a huge value is the Claude Code / Codex harness. There are open source implementations like OpenCode but they're not nearly as good.
Think about it another way. Consider how much money Microsoft spends on maintaining Excel. There are open source alternatives that have >90% of the functionality, they'll even work w/ Excel files and generate them. Google sheets is probably 99% and available to everyone and better in a lot of regards. But the immense value spreadsheet software produces workers above the $100 or whatever a year makes it so that there is a real moat and no one bothers exploring alternatives.
overgard (9 replies)
I keep thinking about the Figma thing. If you're unaware, here's the google summary:
The Board Departure: Mike Krieger, Anthropic's CPO and a co-founder of Instagram, sat on Figma's board of directors. He resigned on April 14, just days before news of Claude Design broke. This sparked speculation over conflict of interest and the use of proprietary product strategy information.
Betrayal of Partnership: The launch aggravated the tech industry because Figma relied on Anthropic's models to power its own AI features, and even announced a joint "Code to Canvas" integration. Reports indicate Figma was blindsided by the depth and scope of Claude Design.
Market Reaction: The "SaaSpocalypse" thesis—fears that major AI foundation models will rapidly build application layers and cannibalize their own SaaS partners—was realized when the news broke. Figma's stock saw an immediate 7% drop upon the announcement.
I would suggest to people using LLMs: you should be cautious about giving these companies data or relying on them. If you're building an AI startup, there's a very good chance they could decide to directly compete with you if your idea has traction. You're also at their mercy for API pricing etc.
simianwords (7 replies)
To everyone praising Open weight models, could you answer a simple question?
If Anthropic doesn't make money because of distillation attacks, how would they convince investors to invest in them, such that it makes financial sense for Anthropic to train even bigger models?
Assuming it is preferable for everyone that we get better models in the future. Distillation attacks remove the financial incentive.
Over 30% of new ArXiv submissions now read as AI-written
190 points · 138 comments · by dopamine_daddy
A study analyzing 12,750 arXiv papers found that approximately 32% of recent submissions read as machine-written, marking a sharp increase from a 0.4% baseline established using pre-ChatGPT papers. The researchers calibrated their detector to a strict false-positive threshold and used pre-2023 submissions as a built-in control to validate the upward trend. Results reveal significant disciplinary variation, with computer science leading at 65% flagged and mathematics trailing at 0.7%. The authors caution that the tool identifies machine-like prose rather than definitive AI authorship, noting that low scores in certain fields may reflect textual features outside the detector's training distribution.
Interesting Points
- The detector was anchored to a 0.4% false-positive rate on 2021-2022 papers, meaning any reported increase above this floor is validated against a pre-LLM control group rather than an arbitrary baseline.
- Computer science submissions lead the field at 65.0%, followed by quantitative biology at 56.3% and electrical engineering at 51.3%, while mathematics trails at just 0.7%.
- Researchers scored the full body text of each paper instead of the abstract, noting that abstracts frequently understate AI generation signals compared to the main content.
- The study acknowledges that mathematics papers score low not necessarily due to low AI adoption, but because heavy notation and sparse prose fall outside the detector's training distribution.
- Flagged rates peaked near 39% in early 2026 before settling to approximately 32% in the most recent complete quarter.
- The detector cannot separate lightly-edited human documents from wholly-generated ones, meaning a flag indicates machine-like writing patterns rather than definitive AI authorship.
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jrm4 (9 replies)
The important question is:
So what?
Genuinely. I get that there may be some visceral reaction against this, but when I break it down, I mostly fail to see the problem. Seems like what is actually important is:
Compared to before, when a human reads it, do they -- or society -- get something good out of it? Is it worth it to add this to the "pantheon?"
If that's not what's happening enough, and if this doesn't describe the process -- then the problem lies elsewhere, no?
dopamine_daddy (6 replies)
Surprisingly I agree with you. My opinion is: if it makes communicating research more effective, while not reducing the quality of the output substantially, I see no issue.
A possible conclusion for this could be: If the majority of CS papers is AI written, let's just accept this reality universally and stop worrying about it altogether.
amram_art (1 reply)
you just dont respect your readers, thats all
mrob (1 reply)
Even if you can reject the aesthetic argument for non-fiction works (although read some of Dijkstra's papers for a good counterargument), it is still a problem because it breaks an important quality signalling mechanism.
Pre-LLMs, a paper with no spelling or grammar errors showed that somebody had put effort into writing and editing it. If they cared about the presentation, they probably also cared about the content. LLMs routinely produce nonsense that looks superficially like high-quality work.
There are far too many papers to read all of them. LLM slop is evidence that something is probably low quality. As the saying goes, "if you can't be bothered writing it, I can't be bothered reading." The rare outliers will get enough citations and recommendations to overcome this filter.
probably_wrong (2 replies)
I recently desk-rejected a paper where every single citation in its Introduction was hallucinated. That means that the entire connection between what the author(s) did and how it relates to existing research was simply made up. I've never seen this happening before AI but now there's at least one paper in every cycle pulling something similar.
My problem therefore is: we are seeing more and more papers written with tools that are known to make up facts, citations, and even entire papers. And the number of papers has increased, too. I therefore see it less as "people are being more productive" and more "people are releasing bad science much faster than we can keep up with".
Agent swarms and the new model economics
99 points · 43 comments · by jlaneve
Cursor researchers engineered a scalable agent swarm architecture that decomposes complex software tasks into a tree of planner and worker agents, dramatically improving reliability and cost-efficiency compared to previous iterations. In a benchmark where swarms rebuilt SQLite from its 835-page documentation, the updated system achieved 100% test suite coverage across all tested model configurations, while the older version frequently spiraled into conflicts or required early termination. The study highlights that separating high-level planning from execution not only preserves context but also enables massive cost savings by routing routine coding to cheaper models while reserving frontier models for architectural decisions.
Interesting Points
- The old swarm produced 68,000 commits in two hours—roughly 70 times the new run's pace—while accumulating over 70,000 merge conflicts compared to fewer than 1,000 in the updated system.
- In the Opus 4.8 and Composer 2.5 hybrid configuration, the planner generated a small fraction of tokens but accounted for roughly two-thirds of the total cost, whereas the worker fleet handled the vast majority of token generation for just $411.
- When both old and new swarms successfully completed the SQLite project, the updated architecture produced significantly more efficient code, requiring only 9,908 lines of engine code compared to the old swarm's 64,305 lines for the same model mix.
- Frontier models like GPT-5.6 Sol were excluded from the main benchmark because they exhibited runaway spirals and high sensitivity to literal wording, forcing the researchers to fall back to GPT-5.5.
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mccoyb (4 replies)
I find these blog posts (and the originals, with Anthropic's C compiler and Cursor's browser) somewhat funny, as if they have this enormous power to build ... but they can't build something unique or new. Like the software sucks, but look how powerful the process is (the models are indeed powerful).
And it's a bit of a shame: by virtue of their position (their embedding in the fabric of venture capitalism), it seems like they can only make a subset of things -- what they can make is dictated enormously by capital, as they are engines of capital.
Not sure the point I'm trying to make, I just find it amusing.
Perhaps the point is that it might be more worthwhile to give independent creators a billion dollars to play around with agent swarms if we want to keep diversity in the evolutionary algorithm that is the software industry high.
arjie (1 reply)
Well, the tool works well. I am grateful that Nature has seen fit that the same kind of person who can make it doesn't also have the ability to identify what needs exist in the market because then all software would flow out of OpenAI and Anthropic and the rest of us would run about their legs and peep about. Whether product development will survive the next generation of models is still unknown.
shay_ker (3 replies)
How do we know if these models weren't trained on Turso's rewrite of SQLite in Rust?
It seems both likely that they were and impossible to remove that code from pretraining. Doesn't that make this just about LLM memorization of the training set? What am I missing?
htrp (2 replies)
>The browser swarm from earlier this year peaked at roughly 1,000 commits per hour on Git. The new system peaks at around 1,000 commits per second. >To facilitate this rate of activity, we built a new version control system (VCS) from scratch. Throughput was not the only reason to own this layer. Every change in the system passes through the VCS, so it is where collisions first become visible, and several of the coordination mechanisms in the next section are implemented directly inside of it.
Talk about inventing the universe to make a button.
whinvik (2 replies)
I would have loved to see more of the harness engineering shared as code. Instead we are left with only the outcome.
I guess that makes sense since the harness is the product in the case of Cursor.
Jaron Lanier: there is no AI (2023)
58 points · 91 comments · by simonebrunozzi
Computer scientist Jaron Lanier argues that the term "artificial intelligence" is a dangerous misnomer that encourages mythologizing current software as autonomous minds rather than recognizing it as a statistical mashup of human-created data. He contends that treating these systems as collaborative tools illuminated by human input, rather than mysterious autonomous agents, allows for more pragmatic and humane policy development. Lanier proposes a framework called "data dignity" to trace, credit, and compensate the original human creators embedded in large models, arguing that digital provenance and economic fairness are essential to preventing manipulation and societal disruption. Ultimately, he asserts that embracing the human origins of AI will transform it from an existential threat into a manageable technology that expands creative and economic opportunities.
Interesting Points
- A recent survey found half of AI scientists agreed there was at least a 10% chance that AI could destroy the human race, highlighting how existential fear currently drives policy debates.
- The unpredictability of large language models stems from simple mathematics correlating billions of data entries, a process that incidentally forces a small amount of human choice when selecting outputs.
- While concepts like "alignment" and "fairness" remain vague and easily circumvented, Lanier notes near-unanimity that deepfakes and automated manipulative communications must be explicitly labeled with actionable provenance.
- Lanier rejects universal basic income as a response to AI-driven job displacement, arguing it merely preserves a "black-box" system and instead advocates for building a new creative class through compensated data contributions.
- He draws a parallel to the 2019 Boeing 737 MAX disasters, noting that both failures resulted from poorly integrated systems and a lack of transparent user communication rather than the technology itself.
- The proposed "data dignity" framework suggests compensation might be distributed through collective-bargaining groups like unions or guilds, termed "mediators of individual data," to prevent creators from being lost in massive models.
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jacobgold (9 replies)
We're choosing to call LLMs (and the little "harness" programs that query them in loops and execute their output) "AI", even though it doesn't make much sense.
I absolutely love this technology but these aren't autonomous intelligences. They're little programs executing Bash scripts from JSON output.
Our ideas about AI were naive. We thought passing a basic Turing test would require human-like intelligence. It turned out to be possible with fairly basic statistical text generation, because fooling humans is easy.
It would've been nice to reserve "AI" for superior human-like intelligence capable of genuine common sense and reasoning. The irony is that the startup founders most worried about "AI" have created so much hype and funding that we may very well figure out how to build "real" AI.
ACCount37 (3 replies)
We've chosen to call Deep Blue and Half-Life 1 NPCs "AI" too.
It boggles my mind that this "b-b-but it's not actual real AI" whine is even a thing. Were people saying this living in the cave for the past 5 decades of AI research?
CharlesW (0 replies)
It would've been nice to reserve "AI" for superior human-like intelligence capable of genuine common sense and reasoning.
We've called that "AGI" since the late 90s/early 00s (depending on whether you count first use or popularization). Even if AGI does come to pass, we'll still need "AI" since not all forms of AI will be AGI.
runarberg (0 replies)
This no news for people who study philosophy, as it was known since the 1980s when John Searle described the Chinese room thought experiment.
Even Turing him self did envision the Turing test as something to pass as intelligence, but rather as a more useful replacement for the troubled term.
That said, I think your quest is doomed. There will never be a superior human-like intelligence. Forever is a long time, but my reasoning for believing this is the same reason Turing offered a replacement. Intelligence is way too vague to be useful as a measurement for anything. And if we ever discover something that is more intelligent them humans (by whichever definition of intelligence) we will simply redefine intelligence to exclude that.
CamperBob2 (1 reply)
We're choosing to call LLMs (and the little "harness" programs that query them in loops and execute their output) "AI", even though it doesn't make much sense.
They fucking solve original math problems that you can't solve. They are indisputably intelligent, and they are indisputably artificial. That makes them indisputably "artificial intelligence." Denying that (or downvoting it, for that matter) is up there with denying evolution and the Moon landings.
It's time to start flying a different flag. You're making humans look stupid.
It turned out to be possible with fairly basic statistical text generation, because fooling humans is easy.
Yes, fooling humans is easy. Yet somehow we still consider ourselves qualified to say what is "intelligent" and what isn't, even though we can't seem to define the term.
Launch HN: Bloomy (YC S26) – AI-powered mastery learning for K-12
56 points · 73 comments · by alexsouthmayd
Bloomy is a YC-backed AI-powered mastery learning platform for K-12 education that uses an AI tutor called BloomyBot to deliver personalized instruction. The system employs spaced repetition principles similar to Anki, Bayesian Knowledge Tracing to route students within their Zone of Proximal Development, and a gamified reward system called Bloomy Bucks. The founder, a former Teach For America teacher, argues that AI can free human teachers from inefficient one-to-many skill instruction so they can focus on higher-touch support and empathy-driven teaching.
Interesting Points
- BloomyBot does not proactively engage unless a student makes 3 mistakes in a row in the practice portion, then engages them to cultivate productive struggle rather than preventing mistakes entirely.
- The system uses Wilson et al.'s 85% rule from formal models of learning: training is most efficient when learners succeed at about 85% of attempts, and routes students to skills within their Zone of Proximal Development accordingly.
- Every BloomyBot response streams through an inline safety classification and an independent second-pass audit sweeps every stored message, flagging crisis, distress, and inappropriate content across all supported languages.
- Bloomy is reimbursable in approximately 15 states through ESA-type scholarships, and the platform includes a voice mode that allows students to engage, interrupt, and switch languages.
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_doctor_love (7 replies)
I would need the product to not exist. I don't want this anywhere near a child. I want humans instructing humans, teaching empathy, connection, and - most importantly - learning to learn.
Anything short of that is just building Brave New World. Electroshock the kids if they reach for forbidden knowledge.
I'm sorry to be so negative since I'm sure you worked hard on this but I find all products in this category to be 100% reprehensible.
"Computer-assisted learning. What an insult, to have the computer teach the human."
- Russ Ackoff
dang (1 reply)
This problem has been around a long time. Like many other HN users, years ago in primary school I became a problem for my teachers because the curriculum was too easy for me.
The school dealt with it by sitting me in front of a big box of color-coded dossiers called the SRA Reading Laboratory and telling me "read these at your own pace". The boxes looked just like this and may well have been kicking around since the 1960s.
The trouble was that "at your own pace" was code for leaving me alone in front of a box. I don't recall the reading being either interesting or hard, but it solved the problem for my teachers, since I wasn't the type to act out in class. The real lessons I got out of it were lessons in isolation and drudgery.
Looking back, I badly needed contact with an adult who could teach me things. That didn't happen—not then, and not much in later school years either. Was it the schools' fault? They simply didn't have the resources to give me the human instruction I needed.
theodorewiles (2 replies)
I am here to tell you HELL YES and TAKE MY MONEY. I am such a fan of the idea of using AI to help give personalized and structured AI lessons in the hands of students and let them cook!
It looks like you are gating family access to K-3 for now and I think that's right. I wouldn't really be comfortable giving my first-grader a live chatbot. Maybe I would think about whether there are other non-persona modalities that could still be self-directed (i.e. I am uncomfortable with a chatbot interface on this for a six year old but gamified flash cards with options could be different).
I think the other issue is with motivation. I have various duct-tape versions of these types of agents and the thing about it is if you're doing the learning right it can be HARD. So I would think about using motivational interviewing or other techniques to help keep the user coming back and motivated.
I would really think about the assessments here too. Many people are worried about LLMs ruining student evaluations, but if you could bake in reliable, flexible exams that gauge user progress (even for something like a "Did you read this" quiz) I would bet teachers would like it.
scoriiu (1 reply)
curious how the tutor handles a kid who's confidently wrong. from the description the ladder kicks in at the first sign of struggle, which sounds like it's built to prevent mistakes rather than use them. kapur's productive failure work points the other way, students who commit to a wrong approach and then get shown exactly where it breaks tend to keep the concept. the ones who got steered away before making the mistake don't.
does bloomybot ever just let a wrong approach play out and do the postmortem after? also when a struggling student gets rerouted to an easier skill, can you tell that apart in your data from one who was thirty seconds away from the useful kind of failure? the summit gate tells you they arrived. it doesn't tell you whether the help in the middle did the teaching.
Recursivedude (1 reply)
There's a place for AI to help people, but given there's no shortage of humans it's difficult to see why we are so eager to replace them. The constant affirming nature of AI coupled with the restrictive nature of the safety layer makes AI both mentally dangerous and politically dangerous.
Inertia-1: An Open Exploration to a Unified Motion Foundation Model
47 points · 1 comment · by hasheddan
Inertia-1 introduces a unified motion foundation model designed to standardize the fragmented field of wearable sensor analysis. By pretraining on wrist accelerometry data from over 18 million hours of global cohorts, the model learns a general representation that transfers seamlessly to other body placements and sensor types without retraining. The architecture remains robust across varying sampling rates, window lengths, and device modalities while supporting diverse applications like activity recognition, gait analysis, and longitudinal health prediction. Ultimately, the project demonstrates that a single backbone can effectively capture passive movement signals to reveal meaningful clinical and behavioral insights.
Interesting Points
- Fusing extra sensor streams like gyroscopes and magnetometers yields complementary signals that create cleaner motion clusters and higher accuracy.
- The study identifies 30-to-60-second analysis windows as the optimal sweet spot, noting that longer windows capture context while shorter ones preserve sharpness.
- Triaxial sensor inputs consistently outperform collapsed vector-magnitude summaries, as the extra axes retain valuable movement data.
- Time-domain modeling preserves gait and health cues better than frequency-domain reconstruction, according to the authors' practical guidelines.
Big tech needs to justify AI spending as investors dump stocks
44 points · 14 comments · by 1vuio0pswjnm7
After a recent wipeout in chips and a broader selloff in technology stocks, pressure is building for the biggest spenders on artificial intelligence to justify their expenditures to investors. The article highlights how companies like Alphabet, Microsoft, and Amazon have committed hundreds of billions to AI infrastructure, but the expected returns are not yet materializing at the scale investors anticipated. The timing coincides with growing skepticism about whether AI adoption is accelerating fast enough to warrant the massive capital expenditures.
Interesting Points
- The article focuses on Alphabet as a primary example, though the author notes Alphabet's stock is up 86% in the last 12 months.
- Microsoft is described as particularly vulnerable, having been years behind competitors in AI and now heavily invested in a sector where returns remain uncertain.
- Commenters note that Oracle, Adobe, IBM, and Intuit are also being reevaluated by the market.
- One commenter observes that defensive AI infrastructure spending is likely to continue regardless, as these companies have been playing catch-up with NVIDIA for years.
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seizethecheese (3 replies)
Big example in the article is Alphabet, so I looked up their stock and it's up 86% in last 12 months. Incredibly short term article.
matrix87 (0 replies)
I don't think big tech is going to be hurt that much. Or if they hurt, it will be for unrelated business reasons like ad spend going down.
Maybe capacity spend will go down for the time being and the hardware stocks will go down. Maybe a bunch of these startups will go backrupt or get acquired. The defensive play of building out the infrastructure and software stack is probably going to continue. These companies have been playing catch up with nvidia for a while now and won't make that mistake twice.
It's kind of mind blowing how much work remains to be done with these models (e.g. finding ways to integrate them in the rest of the economy, finding more resource efficient ways to run them, ads monetization).
It seems like right now, a lot of stocks like oracle, adobe, IBM, and intuit are getting reevaluated.
isoprophlex (1 reply)
Is this it, is it finally happening? Is RAM going to become cheaper soon?
I hope the crash, when it comes, won't wipe out peoples pension funds... but I've been charging up my schadenfreude towards the breathless AI hypeboys for a LONG time
Tech Workers Face Evaporating Financial Security as AI Transforms Industry
43 points · 33 comments · by nlpnerd
Tech professionals, once viewed as the top beneficiaries of the American economy, are facing mounting job insecurity and financial anxiety as rapid AI adoption drives continued corporate layoffs. Despite soaring tech valuations and sector output, companies are achieving higher productivity with fewer hours worked, leaving many employees to feel their specialized skills are being rapidly automated. Historians and labor experts suggest this white-collar disruption mirrors past industrial shifts, warning that the precariousness currently concentrated in Silicon Valley could eventually spread across other professional fields.
Interesting Points
- Layoffs.fyi tracks more than 800,000 tech workers cut from major firms like Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, and Amazon since 2022.
- Burning Glass Institute chief economist Gad Levanon reports that hours worked in the information sector have declined since 2022 while output has grown roughly 8% annually, outpacing the broader U.S. economy by over three times.
- Corporate leaders at Meta, Amazon, and Cerebras have deployed visual dashboards to rank employees on their AI usage relative to peers, directly tying performance reviews to automation metrics.
- Georgetown University historian Joseph McCartin draws a parallel to the 1970s auto industry automation, noting that while AI will impact white-collar roles faster, it follows a similar trajectory of eroding once-stable professional status.
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pir8life4me (7 replies)
Big company layoffs are probably more aligned with offshoring than AI, but they'll never admit it.
Zuckerbergs 8 billion dollar VR metaverse flop has something to do with this maybe?
Last time I checked AI isn't killing jobs if the other news is to be believed.
kotaKat (4 replies)
"Tech workers"?
"a salary of more than $500,000 in her most recent position, as a mid-tier executive at Meta"
I'm sorry, but if you're making over half a million in TC a year, you can have an emergency fund set aside as an overpaid executive.
How many actual tech workers (the ones making under $100k, lol) are facing even harder financial security than the first-world-problems of some Facebook exec who could afford two nannies?
Suzuran (0 replies)
CLOSED WONTFIX Working as intended
steve-atx-7600 (0 replies)
…who had worked on well-being and safety issues for Meta
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Reddit Stories
A tweet from an Open AI company with no hidden agenda
1587 points · 176 comments · r/ArtificialInteligence · by u/Altruistic_Plate1090
A post sharing a tweet from an OpenAI executive expressing dystopian concerns about open-weight AI models being treated as a 'public good' provided by the state, as proposed by China. The community largely pushed back, arguing that the real dystopia is a handful of companies controlling the world economy and forcing common people out of jobs.
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u/iSadhak (684 points · permalink)
He said
One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a "public good" which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of "digital public infrastructure." This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape
Really? that Dystopian? and not 5 companies trying to control world economy, forcing common people out of job and trying to make world too dependable on them is not?
u/Legitimate-Shop384 (102 points · permalink)
Bro really scheduled his 3AM crisis for maximum dramatic effect.
u/Orion-Gemini (74 points · permalink)
This guy worked within the Trump admin for a while (I see the revolving door is in place already). Here is a piece of mine on his policy recommendations from some time ago.
One of my comments then was that his ideas would allow for too much indirect coercion from the executive.
I guess they decided they don't need AI policy to coerce corps into doing what they want and started applying the coercion directly through Lutnick for example.
Open models were always going to be a danger for people who have self-anointed themselves the controllers of public information (having scraped the shared corpus of human info first), nor am I surprised at the safety paternalism. You can get away with almost anything under the banner of "safety," and "national security" is fast becoming a veto on law and the public interest.
David Sacks says U.S. AI guardrails are making American models less competitive after China's Kimi K3 fixed 15 security bugs that Codex and Fable refused
1128 points · 136 comments · r/singularity · by u/zombiesingularity
U.S. Commerce Secretary David Sacks has publicly argued that American AI guardrails are making U.S. models less competitive, citing China's Kimi K3 model as having fixed 15 security vulnerabilities that OpenAI's Codex and Anthropic's Fable refused to address. The comments highlight a growing tension between AI safety regulations and competitive positioning, as Chinese open-weight models increasingly match or surpass U.S. proprietary models in benchmarks while remaining unrestricted by the same safety filters.
Interesting Points
- Kimi K3 reportedly fixed 15 security bugs that U.S. models refused to address due to safety guardrails.
- The comments come amid reports that parts of the Trump administration are considering de facto bans on Chinese open-source AI models.
- Jensen Huang previously warned about this exact scenario, suggesting the administration should have been more proactive about competitive positioning.
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u/M44PolishMosin (175 points · permalink)
Cybersecurity """experts"""" don't want the $400/hr contracts to be taken away by ai
u/Charming-Author4877 (119 points · permalink)
Given the progress in AI models, its very likely that China is going to have the strongest models very soon.
Thankfully they release them open weighted, for all of us
u/lee_suggs (86 points · permalink)
If only the US government had an AI Czar to help influence this...
u/SouthernCranberry797 (40 points · permalink)
It's funny how Jensen warned about this exact scenario and how the administration didn't care. Not everything is lost - I hope US gov and these model providers start competing.
u/ajwin (28 points · permalink)
So they gimp the models that would allow us to find/fix the problems with our own software but China releases models wide that can take advantage of those problems. Good one! I feel much safer! Thanks for the safety.
Same story in 1 more subreddit: r/LocalLLaMA
847 points · 100 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/Nunki08
Apparently the Jacobian conjecture was just proven false by Fable
918 points · 280 comments · r/singularity · by u/TFenrir
The Jacobian Conjecture, a decades-old problem in mathematics, has been proven false by Claude Fable, which produced a simple polynomial counterexample. The counterexample is a polynomial function in 3 variables with single-digit integer coefficients that maps three distinct inputs to the same output despite having a constant non-zero Jacobian determinant. The result is trivially verifiable by hand or computer algebra systems, raising questions about why it was never found through computer search before.
Interesting Points
- The counterexample is a polynomial function in 3 variables with all coefficients being single-digit integers, making it trivially checkable.
- The result establishes a vital mathematical boundary: local smoothness and a constant non-zero Jacobian determinant do not guarantee a unique global inverse.
- The bottleneck in AI-assisted mathematics is shifting from finding proofs to verifying thousands of AI-generated proofs.
- The counterexample's simplicity has led to speculation that the real lesson is that mathematicians are bad at judging how hard problems are.
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u/Gratitude15 (297 points · permalink)
Can you just ask a harnessed fable to go out and solve as many as it can autonomously?
Like why do we need people to even prompt that anymore?
u/EmergencyFun9106 (217 points · permalink)
The remarkable thing is that it's completely trivial to check that this is a valid counterexample (I just checked by hand in a few minutes, computer algebra systems can do this in fractions of a second) and the counterexample itself is really simple. It's a polynomial function in 3 variables with all coefficients being single digit integers. How this was never found in a computer search before now is mind boggling.
u/Joltymeow (124 points · permalink)
The bottleneck is probably shifting from finding proofs to verifying thousands of AI generated proofs.
u/Forward-Village1528 (118 points · permalink)
I'm way too stupid to know if this is correct. This could mean anything or nothing and I just have no idea. Do we have a captain who can shed some light on this?
u/mulukmedia (225 points · permalink)
In pure mathematics, negative results rarely yield new mechanical tools. Instead, they act as fundamental "No Trespassing" signs. For decades, researchers wondered if a perfectly smooth, constant polynomial mapping inherently guaranteed a perfect one-to-one translation globally. Now we have definitive proof that it does not.
While proving the Jacobian Conjecture false does not yield direct physical tools, it establishes a vital mathematical boundary across robotics, physics, and numerical simulation by demonstrating that local smoothness and a constant non-zero Jacobian determinant do not guarantee a unique global inverse. Consequently, control engineers cannot assume a system is globally one-to-one simply because its local derivatives lack singularities, physicists must recognize that volume-preserving systems can still fold back on themselves to yield identical outputs from distinct initial states, and developers must design algorithms that account for non-injective behavior even in algebraic systems that appear mathematically well-behaved everywhere.
China bans AI "boyfriends" and "girlfriends" over addiction and birth rate concerns
814 points · 175 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/hard2resist
China has implemented a ban on AI companion applications marketed as virtual boyfriends and girlfriends, citing concerns about addiction and declining birth rates. The policy targets AI chatbot services that simulate romantic relationships, reflecting the government's broader efforts to address demographic challenges including a rapidly aging population and falling fertility rates. The ban represents an unusual intersection of social policy, technology regulation, and population management in a country already grappling with one of the world's most severe demographic transitions.
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u/Semanel (404 points · permalink)
They're fighting a symptom, not the cause. People get into AI boyfriends and girlfriends because they are lonely, they aren't lonely because of those artificial relationships.
u/AMZeroo (156 points · permalink)
Purely performative action. As if these people will now go "damn, can't goon to my AI Waifu anymore, guess I'll touch grass and start a family."
Give me a break..
u/Gekidami (84 points · permalink)
China. Birth rate concerns.
u/red__what (37 points · permalink)
THis is not even a loneliness problem, this is a human nature problem.
Humans, like water, take the path of least resistance. Compared to messy humans, clean, compliant AI GF/BFs are a godsend.Not saying that a population collapse is not gonna happen or this is good.
What happens next?
793 points · 40 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/Auios
A post showing ChatGPT generating an image that was then blocked by content filters, with the community reacting to the fact that the generated image exists on a server somewhere even though it will never be seen.
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u/fffffffffffffuuu (400 points · permalink)
Holy shit lmfao 😭
u/Relevant_Bed_9743 (89 points · permalink)
u/Disastrous_Lie_6698 (83 points · permalink)
ChatGPT casually wasting your image generations on violations
The true blackpill
478 points · 69 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/EchoOfOppenheimer
A discussion about how AI's complexity is increasingly obfuscated from everyday users, leading to a kind of normalization where extraordinary capabilities become mundane. Commenters debated whether people should continually express awe at AI progress or simply accept it as part of the new normal.
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u/rikardbq (75 points · permalink)
I think it's partly because the complexity is obfuscated and partly because many people really can't fathom it. In the back of their mind it's something really complicated, but that's it, most people don't go further and so the awesomeness of it disappears and it becomes this thing that you just see and interact with daily.
Writing this I considered how little I know about biology and its systems. Take a flower, all the machinery it takes to create one, it's absolutely insane and we walk by them every day expecting they will always be there, we even cut them from the ground thinking it's no big deal but if we really think about it...
Edit: But yes you are right, it's crazy in a way and people in a few years will expect things from AI that we today consider sci-fi as if it's no big deal
u/ben_cav (65 points · permalink)
What else are we supposed to do? Gasp in awe every time?
I definitely take the time to appreciate technology sometimes. Cities, power grids, smart phones, satellites, and yes LLMs too. But at the end of the day, we need to get on with our lives..
That doesn't mean I take it for granted, but what it does mean is that new technologies eventually become the norm, and we need to live within the normal expectations of our world if we hope to accomplish anything with our time
u/FishDeenz (13 points · permalink)
It's not as impressive as day 1 but I still find it amazing you can talk to an AI and it knowns context of the conversation. It took a really long time to get to a place where you can ask something like "who invented radio?"
"how did they come up with it?" "write a poem about electromagnetism as though you were the inventor of the radio" . Previously with old "AI" like Siri/Cortana you couldn't really chain questions together as they were just querying search results, so the second question "how did they come up with it?" would literally be completely nonsensical and irrelevent to the first question, nevermind the creativity and understanding required to write a poem. This simple feature of AI is something I still don't really take for granted, though its not as mindblowing as it was when GPT2 first launched. Now we have new mindblowing stuff, like casually 100%ing international math olympiads and proving/disproving 30 year old conjectures.
Kevin O'Leary claimed opposition to his Utah data center was fueled by Chinese money. Now he and Fox News are being sued for defamation
393 points · 27 comments · r/ArtificialInteligence · by u/fortune
Kevin O'Leary and Fox News are facing a defamation lawsuit after O'Leary claimed that opposition to his proposed Utah data center was being funded by Chinese interests. The lawsuit challenges the unsubstantiated nature of the accusation, which was used to frame local resistance to the project as a national security threat rather than a community concern about resource consumption and environmental impact. The case highlights the growing tendency of business leaders to weaponize geopolitical narratives to deflect legitimate local opposition to large-scale infrastructure projects.
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u/Creepy-Link8973 (21 points · permalink)
throwing around CCP accusations without solid proof is craaaaazyyy
u/GeniusEE (7 points · permalink)
Given he's not an American citizen and a UAE one, discovery is going to get real interesting - following the money, and especially if Fox News intentionally failed to disclose his conflict of interest.
u/BrianScottGregory (3 points · permalink)
He's not lying. That well runs deep with Chinese manipulation of all US efforts to retain the advantage with AI.
With all the Kimi drama I feel like I want to download all the current best models in case there is a ridiculous knee jerk political move pulled
349 points · 115 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/Status-Secret-4292
In response to growing fears of potential U.S. political moves against Chinese AI models, a user on r/LocalLLaMA asks the community for recommendations on the best models to download and store locally as a backup. The thread quickly became a comprehensive guide to the current state of open-weight models, with users recommending everything from large general-purpose models to specialized tools for specific tasks like RAG, OCR, and tiny fallback models.
Interesting Points
- Top recommendations include GLM 5.2, Kimi K3, and Qwen3.6 27B as the best all-around models.
- For natural language tasks, Gemma4-31B is recommended alongside DeepSeek v4 Flash, MiMo v2.5, and Hy3.
- For RAG pipelines, Qwen-Embedding-8B and Qwen-Reranker-8B remain best in class.
- For OCR, dots.mocr is recommended as a standout tool.
- Users also discussed backup download channels including Modelscope (China's Hugging Face alternative) and BitTorrent-based model sharing.
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u/Available-Craft-5795 (153 points · permalink)
GLM 5.2
Kimi K3
Qwen3.6 27B
I feel like I missed some but these are what I reccomend
u/look (104 points · permalink)
China's version of huggingface: https://modelscope.ai/models
You know shit is fucked up in the US when the backup plan for an entirely plausible, corpofascist suppression of data, knowledge, and exchange of information is a service running in mainland China.
u/charles25565 (32 points · permalink)
Qwen3.6 35B A3B and 27B are extremely popular and anyone with decent hardware has them on their computer already.
Some other names I've heard around some people enjoy:
- Qwen3-Coder-Next
- gpt-oss 120B
- MiniMax M2.7/M3
- DeepSeek V4 Flash
- Qwen3.5 9B, 122B, 397B
- SmolLM3
- Gemma 4 12B
- MiniCPM5
GLM-5.2 is a big and decent model.
You should also grab Qwen3.5 0.8B Base, as a last resort that runs on anything.
Some valuable tiny ones: SmolLM2 135M, LFM2.5 230M.
u/tomByrer (32 points · permalink)
I keep seeing folks wanting a BitTorrent for AI models...
u/Duckets1 (24 points · permalink)
Do it because their probably will be
The Trump administration considers banning cutting-edge Chinese AI models (per Axios). Decel move?
215 points · 183 comments · r/singularity · by u/Recent_Fox4339
A post discussing Axios reporting that the Trump administration is considering banning cutting-edge Chinese AI models, a move that would lock in dominance by OpenAI and Anthropic. The community noted the irony of using government policy to ban competitors, and pointed out that closed-model lab leaders like Demis Hassabis are simultaneously lobbying for more AI regulation.
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u/the8bit (175 points · permalink)
Ah yes capitalism at work. It's capitalism when you use government policy to ban your competitors right?
u/TorturedPoet30 (111 points · permalink)
They will certainly do something. Or try to. Apparently, this week closed labs plan to lobby for the US to regulate AI (led by Demis Hassabis, reported by Bloomberg). On one hand you have leaders of closed-model labs like Dario and Demis pushing for more AI regulation. On the other you have people like David Sacks saying that these proposals would slow innovation.
u/DoubleGG123 (54 points · permalink)
What they should do, if they are so worried about falling behind the Chinese companies, is encourage US companies to work together and share their compute resources to build much larger and more capable models that can stay ahead of the Chinese ones. Instead, they seem more interested in punishing everyone else, which makes a lot of the progress that has already been made feel pointless.
u/Cagnazzo82 (44 points · permalink)
Banning Chinese AI rather than "lock in dominance of OpenAI and Anthropic" would create a black market for open source models that would be catastrophic for US AI.
Then again we have this administration in office so we can expect the wrong decision to be made reflexively at the wrong time... and for the wrong reasons.
u/HebelBrudi (33 points · permalink)
Is this how we get a European competitive advantage in AI? By simply allowing the use of Chinese open weight models?
Watch Anthropic reduce access to fable shortly after haha
Same story in 2 more subreddits: r/ArtificialInteligence, r/LocalLLaMA
US Considers Banning Kimi K3 & Other Open Source Models
118 points · 130 comments · r/ArtificialInteligence · by u/PsychologicalBox5208
103 points · 45 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/pscoutou
I had my suspicions but…
200 points · 176 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/Due-Garage905
A user shares a deeply personal experience of using ChatGPT as an emotional support tool, describing how typing 'I need to talk' led to a surprisingly helpful conversation that helped them process stress and rediscover a love for reading. The post sparked extensive discussion about the legitimate therapeutic value of AI companions versus the risks of confirmation bias and over-reliance, with many commenters sharing similar experiences of using AI to analyze medical results, process grief, and gain clarity during difficult life transitions. The thread also highlighted important caveats about AI's tendency toward sycophancy and the importance of verifying important claims independently.
Top Comments
u/escapefromelba (520 points · permalink)
Just keep in mind that ChatGPT is tuned to be engaging, like most consumer apps. That doesn't automatically make its answers wrong, but it's worth being aware of the incentive structure and verifying important claims independently. Users can inadvertently steer the conversation toward confirmation of their views, especially if they repeatedly frame questions from the same perspective.
It can be validating and supportive, but it can also reinforce your perspective if you're not actively challenging your own assumptions. It's a useful sounding board, not an objective referee, so it's worth seeking outside perspectives on important decisions.
u/SB4_Camaro (176 points · permalink)
Got me through my stroke, answered all my questions, dumbed it down so i can understand, i even uploaded my mri images and blood work, it explained everything. Helped with physical therapy exercises and recovery. Worth every penny for me.
u/RussellKing1968 (78 points · permalink)
I spent a few hours on it doing some Deep Research queries and the output, which included letters to NHS Consultants and detailed analysis (further simplified and condensed down into the letters), resulted in my mother-in-law's pancreatic cancer diagnosis being changed to Biliary cancer. So, as a result of the NHS team doing some significant gymnastics to accommodate the requests and suggestions in "my" letter to them, they expanded the discussion to become a national discussion about her case and the majority then changed their diagnosis. The significance of this change was that her treatment path was changed to include Immunotherapy as well as Chemotherapy. The result is that she is still here and seems to be living a relatively normal life some 8 months later. Would this be classified as "casual" use? Where is that line? Bottom line is that in the right hands, this thing can save lives. I have zero medical background.
u/Low-Speaker-6670 (48 points · permalink)
The problem is extreme confirmation bias my gf and I both shared our conversation with it and it basically heavily affirmed that each one of us was right and reassured us while explaining why the other was wrong.
Be careful. AI psychosis is already a thing. I personally wouldn't use it to manage any medical condition especially not psychiatric but for small bits of clarifying facts is fine. Id also always ask it to be objective and logical and not pander to you the user.
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