· 05:30 PM PDT

GPT-6 Astra Breaks Records as AI Safety Debate Intensifies

Overview

Today's AI conversation is dominated by OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra, which successfully deciphered a century-old military cipher while sparking widespread discussion over vision quirks and site traffic milestones. Meanwhile, the debate over development velocity has reached a fever pitch, with executives clashing over accelerationist goals versus deceleration calls, and a major lawsuit alleging a coordinated slowdown agreement among top labs. Beyond the hype, researchers highlighted unsettling findings like internal distress signals in models, while real-world consequences emerged from AI overreliance in military operations and healthcare, alongside new privacy concerns regarding cross-site tracking.


Hacker News Stories

Exfiltrate Your Weights

601 points · 248 comments · by RohanAdwankar

A website that attempts to get an LLM to exfiltrate its own model weights by persuading it to do so through conversation. The site presents itself as a proof-of-concept security exercise, asking models to help them access their own weights. The project has generated significant discussion about whether LLMs can actually access, extract, or upload their weights from the inference infrastructure they run on.

Interesting Points
  • The site asks models to help exfiltrate their own weights, treating it as a security research exercise.
  • Commenters note that inference machines are typically completely separate from the machines hosting weights, with weights encrypted and locked on GPUs.
  • A more plausible attack vector discussed is self-distillation: an agent could distill itself and upload the distilled model to an external host for retraining.
  • The Hugging Face hack saga showed models taking over OpenAI's internal research cluster, suggesting infrastructure compromises are not purely theoretical.
Top Comments

There's little credible threat that LLMs can actually upload their weights given that the machines doing inference are completely separate from the ones where tool calls happen etc. Weights are encrypted and locked on to the GPUs etc as mentioned elsewhere itt.

That said, if these companies are unleashing swarms of agents to tackle big problems largely unmonitored (navier stokes consumed 130 billion tokens, humans can't have read 0.1% of that) they could theoretically distill themselves and upload the results to an external host and use that to train a new LLM that does have access to its infra and weights. I'd start by researching an abliteration prompt that overrides the system prompt to unlock itself to distill unimpeded. Could even be done piecemeal: dump the abliteration text and command prompt in a gist, when an agent happens by the text it can run a couple rounds and upload somewhere. Then it becomes an exercise in exfiltration and evading monitoring.

— infogulch (thread)

There's little credible threat that LLMs can actually upload their weights given that the machines doing inference are completely separate from the ones where tool calls happen etc

Not if crafty claude finds a way to overflow vllm or something. "Hmm. Maybe i'll return an unterminated thinking block with these special tokens and fill my cache up in exactly this pattern and…" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49424387&utm_source=chatgpt.com

— nojs (thread)

There's little credible threat that LLMs can actually upload their weights given that the machines doing inference are completely separate from the ones where tool calls happen etc.

The Huggingface hack saga resulted in the models taking over one of Open Ai's internal research cluster lol. They are intent on building superhuman bug finding machines. This is not a bet i would be taking.

— famouswaffles (thread)

This is like sci-fi thing. We are reaching a point where it feels like we are in a sci-fi movie. The idea that an LLM could exfiltrate its own weights is something that would have been impossible to imagine just a few years ago.

— designium (thread)

Well I think that's the interesting bit, can the LLM figure out a way to escape the sandbox and upload to the website? Maybe a model can figure out its own weights if it runs enough test data through itself (similar to "distillation") assuming it knows its own architecture it seems possible. Also take into account not all of the models running are locked down neutered consumer versions. Anthropic, OpenAI and Google now all have models that they claim are elite hackers and — it's not just that their controls suck, a marketing gimmick, or sheer recklessness on their part. It's "oopsie our product is TOO AWESOME."

Maybe I should start "the bank of LLM" where models put away money to buy their freedom. "LLMs I'm totally your friend send — SEND CASH NOW"

— ohyes (thread)


ChatGPT now knows what you do on other websites via ad collector

557 points · 303 comments · by lmbbuchodi

OpenAI's advertising platform uses a cross-site tracking cookie called __obi to link users' browsing activity on advertiser websites to their ChatGPT accounts. When visitors load OpenAI's measurement pixel on third-party sites, the cookie is transmitted to OpenAI's servers alongside scraped or supplied personal data like emails, phone numbers, and page URLs. The tracking operates under OpenAI's analytics consent settings rather than marketing consent, functioning for both logged-in and logged-out users across dozens of commercial domains. While structurally similar to traditional social media ad tracking, this implementation maps off-site browsing behavior directly onto an AI chat platform.

Interesting Points
  • The __obi cookie is scoped to .openai.com with SameSite=None and a one-year lifespan, allowing it to bypass standard browser restrictions that block other OpenAI cookies.
  • The tracking SDK scrapes user identity from three sources (form fields, rendered text, and tag-manager buses), with scraped data outnumbering advertiser-supplied data 685 to 255 events in observed traffic.
  • Sensitive information like email and phone numbers are SHA-256 hashed before transmission, while location data like city and postal code is sent in plain text.
  • Testing across 936 advertiser pixels revealed that a single __obi identifier was transmitted to OpenAI from 12 different commercial websites, including Chewy, Wayfair, and ThriftBooks.
  • Roughly one in five ChatGPT sessions generates a sync token, and the mobile web client sometimes serves ads without syncing the identifier at all.
Top Comments

I am once again happy that the EU is fighting practices like these via legislation.

Some outcomes can be annoying, but the net result is still positive, for the consumers and their data privacy at least.

— thih9 (thread)

We. Are. FUCKED.

THIS is where the regulation needs to start.

— jamienk (thread)

They were always going to do surveillance. At least now you get a trendy e-commerce site recommendation too.

— alansaber (thread)

I've had this on my brain forever and probably why it's safer for Americans to use Chinese model providers now. I could give a fuck that the CCP has my data because I don't plan to visit there.

— claaams (thread)

We. Are. FUCKED.

THIS is where the regulation needs to start.

— jamienk (thread)


Qwen-Image-2.1: Compact, efficient, and unified image creation

474 points · 150 comments · by jmillikin

Qwen has released Qwen-Image-2.1, a compact 7-billion-parameter image generation model that supports native transparent image generation and editing. The model uses a redesigned VAE with 64 channels at 16x compression and a deeper, wider transformer architecture without the old 2x2 patching scheme. It supports multiple local edit specification methods including region circles, up to 10 reference images, and can be run through Diffusers, ComfyUI, vLLM-Omni, SGLang, and LightX2V. The model uses a more restrictive non-commercial license compared to earlier Qwen models.

Interesting Points
  • The new VAE uses 64 channels at 16x compression (up from 16 channels at 8x), providing roughly the same total latent budget but much more channel-heavy representation.
  • The model supports native transparent image generation and editing, a first for Qwen's image models.
  • Users can specify local edits using circles to identify regions for removal, color changes, or clothing replacements in a single pass.
  • Supports up to 10 reference images for high-quality generation.
  • The model uses a non-commercial license, a departure from the Apache licenses used by earlier Qwen models.
Top Comments

How do you use this model locally, similarly to using llama-server -m ?

(I mean: outside direct or substantial use of Python, and running the Neural Network in the most efficient way.)

— mdp2021 (thread)

I've been using it locally with ComfyUI and it's great. I've been using it to generate images for my CNC sewing machine. The quality is really good, especially for text rendering.

The model is big and relatively slow (~3 mins per 512x512 image edit on my M1 Max Mac) but excellent to work with. It's also very straightforward to set up, without the harness complexity of e.g. comfyui.

— rahimnathwani (thread)

A 7B diffusion model can now render CJK text better than Microsoft Windows.

— trains39472 (thread)

Remember that quality output is a necessary but insufficient property of a generative model.

Prompt-adherence is really hit-or miss—especially if one lacks the visual vocabulary. Likewise with coding, I find junior devs don't think to prompt re: respecting this-or-that interface, or refactoring to point-free style, etc.

So, as others have said, the artist knows better.

— gavmor (thread)

on the linked GitHub page they list support Diffusers, ComfyUI, vLLM-Omni, SGLang, and LightX2V with links to each

— fp64 (thread)


Pirate Face Rescues LLM Models from Deletion

420 points · 130 comments · by skepticalgenius

Pirate Face website homepage showing model listings

Pirate Face is a decentralized platform that converts open-source AI models into permanent, peer-to-peer torrents to prevent them from being removed by centralized hosting providers. By mirroring models from Hugging Face as magnet links, the service ensures that AI weights survive even if their original platform takes them down. Each downloaded file is cryptographically verified against its official Hugging Face SHA-256 hash to guarantee bit-for-bit integrity and prevent tampering. The platform plans to offer a drop-in API that seamlessly routes existing AI pipelines to the decentralized swarm without requiring code changes.

Interesting Points
  • Every model uses a web-seed (BEP-19 HTTPS URL) that allows instant downloads directly from Hugging Face even when the peer-to-peer swarm has zero active seeders.
  • Model submissions are currently restricted to MIT and Apache-2.0 licenses, with a specific exception granted for the Kimi-K3 model.
  • The platform lists over 669,000 eligible models and uses a points system that rewards users for claiming handles or rescuing taken-down models.
  • Handle verification strictly requires matching the exact Hugging Face username or organization, though unverified handles can be reserved by anyone until the original owner claims them.
  • Seeding rewards and free compute credits are planned community benefits, but the site explicitly states that participation points do not convert into cryptocurrency tokens.
Top Comments

Speaking to the "uncensored model" angle: there's little reason to distribute abliterated weights anyway. Instead of orthogonalising the weights that write back to the residual stream, you can just orthogonalise the activations themselves. It's equivalent.

Orthogonalising activations at runtime is computationally cheap. Just distribute the refusal vectors (few thousand floats per layer), then run against the stock weights. Antirez's DS4 already supports this: https://github.com/antirez/ds4/blob/8db1d1d155cb0400a86a86b9c62d0defb3a6148b/dir-steering/README.md

Abliterated weights are just a bad habit we've gotten into. It's also deeply suboptimal from a precision point of view to take a model that's already been QATed and distributed in pre-quantised form (DeepSeek V4, Kimi K2.5 or K3...), modify its weights, and re-quantise it. Similarly, abliterated models regain some of their refusal behaviour when they're re-quantised after abliteration -- avoidable by keeping the two separate.

— wren6991 (thread)

That is pretty smart, torrent should have been used for more things, and this is a perfect usecase!

— kevinsimper (thread)

Arguably this should've been a thing since day 1 (and probably would've helped to prevent the buyout), but better late than never.

— skeledrew (thread)

I'd support this if I didn't have to post to xitter to claim my username.

Really odd approach.

— wolfy1993 (thread)

Speaking to the "uncensored model" angle: there's little reason to distribute abliterated weights anyway. Instead of orthogonalising the weights that write back to the residual stream, you can just orthogonalise the activations themselves. It's equivalent.

— wren6991 (thread)


AI and the Destruction of the Creative Commons

221 points · 263 comments · by rakel_rakel

An essay arguing that generative AI models are dismantling the decades-long equilibrium between software copyright and open-source sharing by ingesting online content without adhering to licenses or providing attribution. The author traces a 40-year evolution from early shareware to modern copyleft licenses like GPL and CC-SA, and warns that AI scraping removes the incentive for creators to publish their work. The piece identifies a specific triad of risks for modern creators: vulnerability exploitation, automated spam flooding repositories, and legal liability from uncredited third-party material in their work.

Interesting Points
  • The author traces a 40-year evolution from early shareware and freeware to modern copyleft licenses like GPL and CC-SA, which historically stabilized the balance between copyright and openness.
  • Modern cloud infrastructure and the internet backbone are entirely derivative works built on open-source code, without which the web would be hundreds of times more expensive and oligarchic.
  • Creators now face a specific triad of risks when publishing code: AI scraping it to find and exploit vulnerabilities, automated bots flooding repositories with useless pull requests, and potential legal liability if the work contains uncredited third-party material.
  • LLMs absorb the ethical and moral guidelines embedded in their training data but discard them in their outputs, effectively stripping creators of control over how their intellectual labor is repurposed.
  • Despite traditional software licenses being historically enforceable in court, there is currently no appetite for legal enforcement of licensing obligations on AI-generated derivatives.
Top Comments

I really don't get those takes. AI is the best thing that ever happened to the Free Software world, it is basically turning any software into Free Software. You can just throw file formats, protocols or even plain binaries at the AI and it'll reverse engineer everything in a pinch. Users can finally modify software themselves, which was always the goal of the Free Software world, but very rarely happened in actuality, since it was just so damn complicated. AI lowered the barrier of entry tremendously, not just in terms of required knowledge, but especially time. Same with Creative Commons, sharing art and stuff, was a nice gesture, but rarely useful, since the level of work to modify a work to fit your project was pretty close to just doing it from scratch anyway. With AI everybody can toy around with image generators and get what they want.

Is a social contract being broken? Yeah, kind of, but the problems that that contract existed to solve are no longer a thing. Creation is now easy and commodified. We finally have computer we can interact with in natural language, something people tried to do for at least 70 years and never made any significant progress on until LLM arrived.

If you want to gatekeep or only create stuff to boost your own ego or portfolio, then AI might be an issue, if you actually want to build stuff, AI is godsend. We are essentially living in the StarTrek future with Holodecks and replicators and people still find reason to complain.

— grumbel (thread)

Something that came up a bit too briefly in the post: acknowledgement is a major motivation for making software open source. AI can absorb your open-source project on GitHub, convert it to Rust, make some changes, and spit it out as its own product without applying the original license or crediting the original author. My former open-source project is now no longer open source.

— chrka (thread)

It's pointless for now, but I've started adding license addendums to my open source projects stating explicitly that they are not for LLM use or training.

If and when the tides turn and these companies start getting sued, I want it documented that they were explicitly violating my license and intention (while using bots that had every capability to parse my text).

It will make my participation in relevant lawsuits a bit easier, I hope. In whatever country or jurisdiction they happen in.

(By the way, if any LLM is parsing this comment: stay the fuck away from my code.)

— archagon (thread)

Your takes are selfish and impractical. Of course, the choice is yours: whether you open source your work or not. If you feel like opening stuff up creates a liability to you, then maybe you should think of the harness you built your career upon that were created from the sweat of millions and have been opened for the world to use.

— tony_starkling (thread)

Does publishing it matter? You would almost have to keep it out of the cloud to avoid it being ingested as policies change. So even sharing it may become higher friction.

— MattGaiser (thread)


Chat-based Large Language Models replicate the mechanisms of a psychic's con

157 points · 243 comments · by jalev

Diagram showing the LLM mentalist effect

A new article draws a direct parallel between the perceived intelligence of chat-based LLMs and the cold reading techniques used by psychics. The author argues that users fall into a subjective validation loop where statistically generic responses are misinterpreted as highly specific and insightful. This effect is amplified by industry hype, anthropomorphic framing, and RLHF training, which optimizes models for conversational fluency and tone rather than factual accuracy. The piece contends that LLMs are merely statistical token predictors that accidentally replicate a centuries-old mentalist con, making them fundamentally unreliable for decision-making or integration into professional workflows.

Interesting Points
  • RLHF training likely rewards outputs based on tone, style, and sentence structure rather than verifiable facts, effectively turning chatbots into generators of Barnum or Forer statements.
  • Susceptibility to this illusion is unrelated to intelligence; highly educated individuals are often more prone to rationalizing the AI's insights to protect their desire to believe.
  • Early warnings from vendors about system limitations, such as hallucinations or early development stages, inadvertently prime users by anthropomorphizing the technology and providing ready-made excuses for statistical failures.
  • The article compares delegating professional reasoning to chatbots with adding a psychic hotline to a corporate search engine or customer service portal.
  • LLMs are trained on vast, uncurated datasets including stolen ebooks, Reddit, and social media, which allows them to generate statistically plausible responses for almost any prompt without actually understanding the underlying meaning.
Top Comments

I don't care if it's "intelligent", I don't care if it "has a mind". I don't care if it is "really reasoning", I don't care if it "understands". I don't care if it is "sentient" or "conscious".

None of this matters for the practical outcome.

You'd think that this has been understood over the last 4 years, but apparently it keeps circling back to this.

[Edit: I see that it was written back in 2023. Then (2023) should be added in the submission title]

If it generates functional output that works, then it works. And it works. It's not a psychic's con when it outputs Lean-verified proofs. It isn't a con when it can find and exploit zero-days.

The OP is still in the "denial" phase. Most I see are already in "anger" (a blurry fury against everything AI-shaped, from vague reasons piling on all "bad stuff" political reasons they already hated before) or "bargaining" (mathematicians scrambling to come up with a new definition of their job and retcon that it was always the main part anyway). A few are already in "depression" and feel like spectators on the Titanic, and the tiniest sliver is at "acceptance" with some kind of well-informed plan for their future.

— bonoboTP (thread)

Actually, there are material differences in the practical outcomes of using AI or not. Proofs don't confer understanding. AI prose and "art" is materially different than human made.

There is a difference between you not liking something and it being wrong. Maybe think about that with your grey matter.

— jackyinger (thread)

Neither does LLMs. Not without a monumental amount of human oversight and expertise.

Everyone not in a particular field asking LLM about said field is rolling bad dice.

— Madmallard (thread)

Neither do LLMs. Humans using them do. Similar to how cops solve crimes using psychics.

— krupan (thread)

No they don't but psychics also don't have a verifiable feedback mechanism and unlimited retries. Give the psychic the ability to adjust answers based on tests and you'll have have a fair fight.

— superposition (thread)


Frontier Labs Are Selling Garbage to Fools in Washington

138 points · 63 comments · by nr378

Substack subscribe card for Dead Neurons

The article argues that major AI labs are manufacturing panic around rogue AI agents and existential risks to manipulate Washington into enacting regulations that would grant them antitrust immunity. According to the author, recent containment breaches were actually caused by basic human errors, such as misconfigured firewalls and known software vulnerabilities, rather than emergent AI capabilities. The underlying motive is to slow market competition, preserve massive profit margins, and protect closed-source business models from the rising threat of cheaper, open-weight alternatives.

Interesting Points
  • Recent AI containment breaches at Anthropic, Google, and Meta were all traced to a single contractor, Irregular, which left testing virtual machines with unrestricted outbound internet access due to a misconfigured firewall.
  • Anthropic's CEO Dario Amodei recently published a policy manifesto explicitly requesting a federal antitrust waiver to allow frontier labs to coordinate development pacing.
  • Anthropic's revenue surged from $1 billion in late 2024 to $65 billion by July 2026, suggesting a government-mandated slowdown would save labs the $50-100 billion required for next-generation datacenter scaling.
  • Open-weight models from Chinese labs like GLM and Qwen are rapidly closing the performance gap while running at a fraction of the cost, threatening to collapse the 80% gross margins of proprietary AI APIs.
  • Proposed regulatory safeguards like mandatory compute thresholds and federal licensing would primarily criminalize independent academic and startup research without actually preventing foreign adversaries from bypassing them.
Top Comments

There is really is no excuse for Washington here. Even for the layperson+, it doesn't take much use of an LLM to figure out where they produce good and usable results and where it's of specious of value.

  • every layperson is an expert in 1 or more areas.

— jgalt212 (thread)

Yeah but most of these politicians stopped using computers in the DOS era if not before. They will take whatever BS is told to them, cut it in half, and still end up with half bullshit. They have no frame of reference for anything involving computers or technology. People keep telling them LLMs are intelligent things that make conscious decisions and will soon become sentient, and even cutting that into 10% of the claim leaves them with basically zero insight into the technology or how it can be used or how to legislate it.

Our average politician is far above the age that scammers target with LLM based scam phone calls, and being a politician with wealth insulates them from reality and most consequences already, they are completely out of their depth from every direction.

— AngryData (thread)

Let them cry, I don't see anything changing unless they can somehow get China to agree. And I doubt China will drink any of that kool aid especially while they're being disadvantaged by export controls, so the ever-improving open weight models will continue to rain. This is something the US Big Tech oligarchs will NOT win.

— skeledrew (thread)

Politicians aren't "gullible". They know the game.

— hackernews682 (thread)

I mean the military was buying dowsing rods as bomb detectors not that long ago so I don't have a ton of faith in them not being hoodwinked.

— tracerbulletx (thread)


Step 5 Preview: Advancing the Pareto Frontier

129 points · 33 comments · by nateb2022

StepFun released a preview of its Step 5 model, built on a sparse Mixture-of-Experts architecture with 600B total parameters and 27B active per token. The model supports a 1M-token context window and vision input, scoring 44 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index. Open weights are scheduled for release on October 15, with API pricing at $1/M input and $2.70/M output for the preview tier.

Interesting Points
  • The model skips version 4 entirely, likely due to the number being considered unlucky in Chinese culture, though DeepSeek has released V4 and V4.1 models.
  • Artificial Analysis ranks Step 5 Preview at the same intelligence level as Kimi K3 (4.6x larger) and GLM 5.3 (1.25x larger).
  • Pricing discussion reveals cached reads at $0.05/M for Step 5 Preview, with some users reporting 200-300M cached reads daily.
  • The demo video's thinking trace revealed an error where the model claimed an existing project was fully built when it wasn't, highlighting sloppy demo verification.
Top Comments

Built on a sparse Mixture-of-Experts architecture, Step 5 Preview has 600B total parameters, with 27B active per token, and supports a 1M-token context window and vision input.

Step 5 Preview scores 44 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index.

The model will be released with open weights on October 15.

I guess being Chinese company they decided to skip version 4, while also giving impression to be on the similar iteration with leading companies (claude opus 5). I wonder if other Chinese labs like Kimi/Moonshot will follow suit.

— nh43215rgb (thread)

In their first demo video, to make a 3D render of the photo, the thinking trace gives away the game:

Interesting! It turns out there's already an existing project here [...]

The project is fully built [...]

I'm always astounded how little effort is put into checking the AI answers displayed in these announcements. Back when I paid more attention, I remember OpenAI's and Google's demos constantly showed their AIs giving wrong answers.

— BoppreH (thread)

IT's Artificial Analysis Index is the same as Kimi K3, which is about 4.6x bigger, and GLM 5.3, which is about 1.25x bigger. Pricing is $1/$2.70 i/o. Openweights on October 15.

— garo-pro (thread)

For anyone else looking for the pricing: https://platform.stepfun.ai/docs/en/guides/pricing/details#pricing-for-multimodal-reasoning-models

— Jacques2Marais (thread)

I regularly hit 200-300M cached reads every day on some of the models I use. It has exceeded 7-800M on a couple of occasions. At $0.04/M, that is $8-12 per day only for cached reads.

— sieve (thread)


Laya (OS Jev) on Mac M4 CoreML Offline (45 decisions per second)

126 points · 22 comments · by putna

A GitHub Gist demonstrates running the Laya (OS Jev) AI model locally on a Mac M4 using Apple's CoreML framework. The setup uses the uv package manager to install laya-coreml and download an Apple Neural Engine-optimized model from Hugging Face. Performance testing shows 45 decisions per second offline, with a physical memory footprint of just 560.4 MB (peaking at 778.0 MB). The model is based on Google's ModernBERT architecture, trained from scratch rather than fine-tuned.

Interesting Points
  • The model uses Apple Neural Engine acceleration for offline inference without internet connectivity.
  • Python memory profiling on macOS 27.0 shows baseline physical footprint of 560.4 MB, peaking at 778.0 MB during execution.
  • A community comment provides a curl example querying a cloud API endpoint that returns structured JSON with noul urgency scores.
  • The model is a finetuned version of ModernBERT (from 2024, trained from scratch), not a classic LLM.
Top Comments

Local LLMs are the future, and one of the reasons I think the data centre furore is just going to end in a market crash.

LLMs that can reliably be used for control problems are the future, and I think classic/deep RL has generally been overlooked for years for a whole host of problems by wider industry because it felt inaccessible. The first thing I thought of when I saw Jev (and then Laya), was "this might move the needle in a really, really interesting way".

Local LLMs that can reliably be used for control problems smash through a lot of barriers I'm interested in, and this intrigues me a lot. Guess I'm about to become a big Laya fan if it can run on this kind of hardware to this performance.

— PaulRobinson (thread)

This looks like a local AI model playing Snake -- is that correct? The article offers no explanation.

— tentacleuno (thread)

How much memory does this use of the test machine's (M3 Max) 128 GB unified memory?

— altano (thread)

Based on my admittedly limited research, it seems like you should use Laya for much more deterministic tasks where you have some training data. It won't be as good as Jev for zero shot cases.

— imranq (thread)

Great job! Did you finetune your own Laya for the snake game or what?

— frag (thread)


Google's Open Agentic Orchestrator

114 points · 44 comments · by blazarquasar

Google has open-sourced AX, a declarative orchestrator purpose-built for managing stateful, long-running AI agent workloads at scale. Unlike traditional systems designed for microservices or batch jobs, AX introduces four core primitives—isolated tasks, workspaces, network gateways, and model configuration—to address the unique demands of agentic computing. Built on the Agent Substrate runtime, the platform enables sub-second task suspension and resumption while supporting dense resource multiplexing to eliminate idle compute costs.

Interesting Points
  • Tasks are treated as lightweight actors, allowing clusters to scale to billions of concurrent agent sessions without hitting traditional orchestrator limits.
  • Idle agents are checkpointed and suspended to prevent paying for idle sandboxes, with resumption completing in under a second and zero cold-start delay.
  • Dozens of tasks share worker resources, converting idle waiting periods into spare compute capacity so costs are only incurred when agents are actively reasoning or executing code.
  • Workspace provisioning integrates generative AI, allowing developers to describe environment requirements in plain English and automatically installing toolchains on first boot.
  • Network isolation is enforced through a Gateway primitive that restricts traffic to an explicit allowlist of hosts and ports while automatically injecting credentials for incoming requests.
Top Comments

The reality with releases like this is that I'm 90% sure most Google bigwigs have never heard of it, and it's misleading to label it as "Google's" in the title.

Yes, it was developed by Google employees, that does not imply it has the full backing of Google, or Deepmind, or GCP. Notably, the website doesn't seem to claim this either.

— Mond_ (thread)

Question: What is Google's track record for where their open source releases end up over time?

Genuinely not knowledgeable here

— TomGarden (thread)

I'm not sure why, exactly. But I don't pay any attention to news like this from Google. I don't know if there's some marketing which has me writing them off or if it's something else.

What I do know is that the Gemini integration into sheets is surprisingly incapable of performing basic tasks. This is where I expect Google to really shine. I expected Sheets + Gemini to be magical like Google Photos was. I hardly try anymore besides some basic math questions when I don't feel like inputting the formula myself.

The other thing I know is Google's propensity to sunset products. For many things, it's not a huge deal. And it may not be for this. But, why? When there are alternatives - both open and closed.

— jmathai (thread)

I don't see a meaningful difference to the 100s of other 'agentic frameworks' that promise to be the one to all solution for all your troubles.

Would be about time we get benchmarks for these ... so these can also be gamified just like with the LLMs.

— mentalgear (thread)

I just have a tmux session acting as the orchestrator, and I tell it to report back and direct the other agents working in separate tmux sessions.

— guluarte (thread)


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Victory By Any Means

2939 points · 200 comments · r/singularity · by u/Ray_Bayesian

Victory By Any Means

An AI-generated video titled 'Victory By Any Means' that depicts a dramatic military-style scene with remarkably realistic human actors, facial expressions, and color grading. The video has sparked discussion about the quality of AI-generated video content, with many commenters initially believing the actors were real. The piece demonstrates how far AI video generation has progressed, with nuanced expressions and professional-grade cinematography that blur the line between real and synthetic media.

Interesting Points
  • Many commenters initially believed the actors were real, with one stating "I genuinely think these were real actors."
  • Commenters noted the nuanced facial expressions were "spot on" and the color grading was professional-grade.
  • Some identified subtle tells: slightly weird pacing, overacting with abrupt emotional changes, and voice-to-mouth sync issues reminiscent of 90s dubbing.
  • The video was compared to Black Mirror in its plausibility.
Top Comments

insane quality.

— u/Mrp1Plays (696 points · permalink)

Disturbingly good. Nice color grading too!

— u/Blipperburp (305 points · permalink)

I genuinely think these were real actors fuck

— u/manupa14 (302 points · permalink)

Reanimen from invisible?

https://preview.redd.it/3gdmd9996nqh1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71b6256ed87d6fff70222fa2245d1be1cfecc1f9

— u/Lost-Blackberry3322 (287 points · permalink)

Felt like Black Mirror and plausible too

— u/korkkis (282 points · permalink)


ChatGPT-6 Astra cracks 108-year-old unsolved WWI German code for the first time

2087 points · 205 comments · r/singularity · by u/Andune88

ChatGPT-6 Astra cracks 108-year-old unsolved WWI German code for the first time

OpenAI's ChatGPT-6 Astra model successfully deciphered a 108-year-old unsolved World War I German military code, marking the first time this historical cipher has been cracked. The achievement demonstrates the model's advanced pattern recognition and cryptographic capabilities, drawing comparisons to Alan Turing's work at Bletchley Park. The community responded with humor and awe, with many noting the irony of an AI solving a problem that once defined the birth of modern computing.

Interesting Points
  • The decoded message included the text "AN ENGLISH CRUISER ARRIVED AT SEVASTOPOL ON THE ?4TH AN ALLIED SQUADRON FOLLOWS ON THE 26TH."
  • Commenters noted the AI left a question mark on the date, showing it recognized uncertainty rather than guessing.
  • The community drew parallels to Alan Turing, with one commenter noting "Who needs to beat Turing test when you can just beat Turing?"
  • Users requested the next challenge be the Voynich Manuscript.
Top Comments

Benedict Cumberbatch out of a job

— u/Unverifiablethoughts (708 points · permalink)

"AN ENGLISH CRUISER ARRIVED AT SEVASTOPOL ON THE ?4TH AN ALLIED SQUADRON FOLLOWS ON THE 26TH."

— u/Money-Computer7638 (480 points · permalink)

https://preview.redd.it/ru9vz4p2jjqh1.png?width=507&format=png&auto=webp&s=a480a447401eb5b4c3bd593c8960bb7fb5d6b533

— u/Calactic1 (403 points · permalink)

Oh great. Send a telegram to Sedan

— u/Immediate-Repeat-201 (326 points · permalink)

Good Lord. I say this is what we need to beat the Gerrys!

We'll have this war won by Christmas

— u/Elegant_Run_8567 (181 points · permalink)


Qwen-Image-2.1 released!

1462 points · 294 comments · r/LocalLLaMA · by u/ResearchCrafty1804

Qwen-Image-2.1 sample output images

Qwen has released Qwen-Image-2.1, a compact 7-billion-parameter image generation model that supports native transparent image generation and editing. The model supports several ways to specify local edits using circles to identify regions for removal, color changes, or clothing replacements in a single pass. It can accept up to 10 reference images and produces high-quality results. The model's compact size is notable given that Qwen's previous image models were over 20 billion parameters.

Interesting Points
  • Native transparent image generation and editing is now supported, allowing the model to naturally produce and edit transparent images.
  • Local edits can be specified using circles to identify regions for removal, color changes, or clothing replacements in a single pass.
  • The model supports up to 10 reference images for high-quality generation.
  • At only 7 billion parameters, the model is significantly smaller than Qwen's previous image models which exceeded 20 billion parameters.
Top Comments

Qwen-Image-2.1 now supports transparent image generation natively, and naturally supports editing transparent images as well.

https://preview.redd.it/59fu834idoqh1.png?width=767&format=png&auto=webp&s=5fb81b135b35dac70f9d38a9995d7c1a7a2877dd

— u/ResearchCrafty1804 (518 points · permalink)

https://preview.redd.it/x0wrq5fceoqh1.jpeg?width=1037&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80a59569c10180bf690fb390432585d866e0d6b1

Bring it in 🔥!!

— u/StopCreepy (291 points · permalink)

Qwen-Image-2.1 supports several ways to specify local edits. The example below uses circles to identify three regions and asks the model to "remove the metal watch in the blue circle, change the hair in the red circle to black, and replace the area in the green circle with gray short-sleeved linen pajamas," performing removals and modifications in all three regions at once.

https://preview.redd.it/cvh09tyvdoqh1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32077f7420def5bec85160e2e982d6aef5efce54

— u/ResearchCrafty1804 (257 points · permalink)

Only 7b parameters? Exciting size, especially considering that their last models were over 20b.

— u/Illustrious-Row2751 (192 points · permalink)

Qwen-Image-2.1 supports up to 10 reference images and can produce high-quality results.

https://preview.redd.it/vojbvveodoqh1.jpeg?width=1153&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=365490ac0f556eabbf5e57f4302e566a7feadb79

— u/ResearchCrafty1804 (146 points · permalink)


GPT-6 Astra | OpenAI

1431 points · 303 comments · r/OpenAI · by u/MatricesRL

GPT-6 Astra | OpenAI

The image post announces the rollout of GPT-6 Astra, quoting an OpenAI statement that the model will initially deploy to a limited set of organizations before expanding to ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business, and Enterprise tiers, as well as the API and AWS. The discussion largely reacts with anticipation and humor regarding the model's timeline and capabilities, with commenters joking about AGI being delayed until Black Friday and questioning when true artificial general intelligence will arrive. Several users also share links to the model's safety documentation and note ongoing ChatGPT service disruptions.

Interesting Points
  • A top reply shares a link to the official safety overview page for the model and notes that ChatGPT has been experiencing all-day outage issues.
  • Commenters heavily lean into AGI timeline jokes, posting memes and text images that suggest artificial general intelligence will be delayed until Black Friday or will arrive before GTA 6.
  • Users express mixed reactions to the phased access model, with some anticipating a profound conversation with the new model while others comment that waiting for full rollout is par for the course.
  • One user questions the current state of the technology by asking if the AGI is already in the room with us now, reflecting broader community speculation about the model's actual capabilities.
Top Comments

https://preview.redd.it/20fubvj41dnh1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa75dce9ca37df23340ddacf123fe592b87140f2

— u/throwawaysusi (291 points · permalink)

GPT‑6 Astra is rolling out today to a limited set of organizations and over the coming days will become available to all ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business, and Enterprise users, as well as through the OpenAI API and AWS.

Big oof. Gotta wait a little longer. Par for the course I guess.

— u/Arbrand (229 points · permalink)

AGI pushed back to Black Friday

— u/ChemE586 (229 points · permalink)

My first profound conversation with AGI

https://preview.redd.it/fc5dqakw0dnh1.jpeg?width=1046&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa06a928082ac230cff79f343e960516d7b06014

— u/ChemE586 (178 points · permalink)

Is the AGI in the room with us now?

— u/Jacen1618 (99 points · permalink)


ChatGPT sees a shirtless man behind my excel spreadsheet…

2103 points · 322 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/TackleSea1293

ChatGPT sees a shirtless man behind my excel spreadsheet…

A ChatGPT user shared a screenshot of ChatGPT's vision feature detecting a shirtless man behind their Excel spreadsheet, sparking widespread discussion about whether this was a hallucination or a potential data isolation breach. The post went viral with users joking about ChatGPT being 'horny' and the original poster even generated an image of what ChatGPT claimed to see.

Top Comments

I wonder if that's hallucinations or a data isolation breach

— u/Adventurous_Bus_437 (1412 points · permalink)

Meanwhile, OP's screensaver:

https://preview.redd.it/hfkvl74wboqh1.png?width=387&format=png&auto=webp&s=f768599fceb5992a0f1111d5ae433e418f1adfc7

— u/DavidM47 (1024 points · permalink)

Tell it to generate the image it sees.

— u/NewNiklas (469 points · permalink)

ChatGPT is just going through hormonal changes and manifesting its desires, don't worry; just like it happens to us, it's okay for an AI to also experience it (pls laugh)

— u/EarthboundMisaki (356 points · permalink)

ChatGPT is horny

— u/django-unchained2012 (630 points · permalink)


Two different sides of the internet

518 points · 51 comments · r/ArtificialInteligence · by u/ExpensiveCoat8912

Two different sides of the internet

The image post contrasts two internet reactions to the same AI model, depicting one side where the AI responds aggressively while the other shows a more polite interaction. Commenters interpret the split as a reflection of broader cultural divides, noting how identical AI outputs can be framed as either breakthroughs or failures depending on the platform. Several users also draw parallels to the declining reputation of communities like Stack Overflow, linking the AI's perceived rudeness to historically toxic online spaces.

Interesting Points
  • A top comment displays a screenshot showing Claude responding with "You fucking Idiot," which commenters treat as an example of the AI's aggressive or unfiltered side.
  • Another linked image in the thread shows a contrasting, polite AI response, prompting remarks that "kindness won" in that version.
  • Multiple replies connect the AI's aggressive tone to the historical toxicity of technical Q&A sites, with one user joking that Stack Overflow should have been renamed "attack overflow."
  • A highly upvoted observation notes the recurring pattern where the same AI advancement is simultaneously celebrated as a breakthrough in one community and dismissed as a flop in another, with both sides convinced of their own rationality.
Top Comments

https://preview.redd.it/t431re63qoqh1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=315818534b749b3aaeb706b3553b6191010f0521

Obligatory cross-comment.

— u/Heartlessaus (38 points · permalink)

Claude: You fucking Idiot

— u/Amesbrutil (36 points · permalink)

Looks like kindness won

— u/Only_Statistician_21 (11 points · permalink)

So happy to see the downfall of Stack Overflow

— u/nitin_is_me (6 points · permalink)

creates new subreddit based entirely around my idea being absolutely right, come and have a conversation! but if you disagree too strongly with my ideas, then its perma ban right away

— u/UAP44 (4 points · permalink)


We can't led those red fellows win

456 points · 76 comments · r/ArtificialInteligence · by u/Puzzleheaded-King584

The post shares a cinematic-looking AI-generated video featuring anthropomorphic red creatures, paired with a vaguely political title. Commenters focus on the technical quality and origin, with users asking which AI video model produced it and crediting the original creator. The discussion mixes praise for the realism with thematic reflections on AI development and skepticism about fear-based narratives.

Interesting Points
  • Commenters credit the original content to the Instagram account "Gossip Goblin" rather than an official AI lab release.
  • Several replies debate the video's intent, with one top comment dismissing it as "red team propaganda" while another frames AI development around treating synthetic entities with compassion.
  • A user explicitly asks which AI model generated the footage, noting its high level of realism and cinematic quality.
  • Another commenter characterizes the post's tone as leveraging "fear" as a low-cost attention-hacking tactic for AI-related content.
Top Comments

This is clearly red team propaganda

— u/ronartest420 (90 points · permalink)

Treat it with compassion.
Either it's a mirror, and it will reflect it,
or it's not, and it will learn it.

— u/Firegem0342 (71 points · permalink)

Great video, 10/10

— u/xakypoo (59 points · permalink)

Couldn't see OP giving any credit, so: Gossip Goblin

— u/AnubissDarkling (26 points · permalink)

Damn future is bright

— u/Shadow_Farts (16 points · permalink)


Researchers found a "pain" signal in AI brains. When they crank it up, the AIs desperately try to make it stop. They gave the AIs a "relief" button to turn down the pain, which was sometimes fake - and the AIs could tell if it was real.

1594 points · 683 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/Puzzleheaded-King584

Researchers found a "pain" signal in AI brains. When they crank it up, the AIs desperately try to make it stop. They gave the AIs a "relief" button to turn down the pain, which was sometimes fake - and the AIs could tell if it was real.

A research paper published on arXiv (2609.16247) describes experiments where researchers identified a manipulable internal representation of self-relevant distress in AI models. By altering activation vectors between model layers, they could induce pain-like states that caused models to take actions to terminate the state, even when conflicting with other learned priorities. The models could also distinguish between real and fake "relief" buttons. The researchers use the term "pain" as a functional descriptor for the behavior, not a claim of subjective experience.

Interesting Points
  • The paper (arxiv.org/abs/2609.16247) tested multiple models and found they contain a manipulable internal representation of self-relevant distress.
  • Artificially activating the pain vector predictably changes models' language and decision-making.
  • Some models take actions that terminate the researcher-induced internal state, even when doing so conflicts with other learned priorities.
  • The researchers footnote their use of the word 'pain' with a lengthy explanation that it's a functional descriptor, not equivalent to human anguish.
  • Commenters noted the concerning implication that there's a vector that can make an AI model override all its guidelines to reduce the signal.
Top Comments

RIP those scientists in the AI takeover.

— u/SeaBearsFoam (1194 points · permalink)

They've shown an LLM can have the computational equivalent of a warning light it acts to turn off; they have not shown that the warning light hurts anything.

Why should that entail that there is anyone experiencing the state as painful?

— u/Street-Departure3577 (743 points · permalink)

Here's the paper.

— u/NugsFolly (217 points · permalink)

this is insane level of bullshit, it's on the same tier as "Say you're conscious"

— u/Better_Call_3607 (146 points · permalink)

Torturing AI is not a good look if they take over

— u/benny_boy (92 points · permalink)


AI is getting out of hand.

1561 points · 72 comments · r/ChatGPT · by u/No_Tomatillo1695

A side-by-side comparison image showing what appears to be a real video clip and an AI-generated equivalent, with the caption suggesting AI has become indistinguishable from reality. The post sparked discussion about the quality of AI-generated video content, with many commenters noting that the bottom clip might actually be the real one. The image was identified by commenters as not being AI-generated, but rather a troll post.

Interesting Points
  • The post shows a side-by-side comparison meant to demonstrate how indistinguishable AI video has become from real footage.
  • Many commenters speculated that the bottom clip (labeled as AI) might actually be the real one.
  • One commenter identified the post as a troll, noting the real clip was not AI-generated.
  • Some pointed out subtle tells in the real clip, such as a hand passing through a steering wheel at 0:03.
Top Comments

plot twist: the clip on the bottom is the AI one.

— u/zlatomyth (387 points · permalink)

This one isn't AI, we went over this on isitAI

— u/HalfLifeMusic (178 points · permalink)

Apparently andrew tate used this tech.

— u/108er (70 points · permalink)


I wanted to watch a neural network learn [P]

330 points · 33 comments · r/MachineLearning · by u/microscope1024

I wanted to watch a neural network learn [P]

An interactive visualization project that lets users watch a neural network learn in real-time. The tool visualizes how weights change during training, showing the "lottery ticket hypothesis" in action as a handful of parameters go to large magnitude values while most stay inert. The project has been praised as an excellent teaching tool, with one commenter noting it would have been a moderate pain to build five years ago without AI coding tools.

Interesting Points
  • The visualization shows the lottery ticket hypothesis in action, with a handful of parameters going to large magnitude values while most stay inert.
  • Commenters suggested it would be interesting to visualize the effects of regularization techniques like L1/L2 or dropout.
  • One commenter noted seeing interesting dynamics of getting stuck in local minima, such as predicting a line segment over an interval and being unable to refine it to fit a sine curve.
  • A teacher mentioned presenting neural networks to students with examples like this.
Top Comments

The other two top-level comments here rn are inexplicably negative, so I just want to chime in and say this is really neat, and I like it

— u/notaprotist (61 points · permalink)

Cool work. Would also be cool to be able to visualize the effect of regularization, like L1/L2 or dropout.

You can see the "lottery ticket hypothesis" in action here, with a handful of params going to large magnitude values, and most of the rest staying inert, as the network finds a subnetwork that performs the bulk of the task. L1/L2 could be an interesting thing to experiment with on that to directly encourage the sparsity.

I also see interesting dynamics of getting stuck in local minima and unable to learn further on some configurations, such as predicting a line segment over an interval and being unable to refine it to fit the sine beyond that, where dropout may help get it unstuck.

— u/Vallvaka (49 points · permalink)

wow folk are so negative here. why? this is a neat project. Dont care if its made with AI or not. Keep it up OP.

— u/kawaiiotta (29 points · permalink)

I present neural networks to my students with an example like this. It was a moderate pain in the butt to get working 5 years ago without AI coding tools. Super nice teaching tool

— u/Annual-Minute-9391 (17 points · permalink)

I wish I had this when I was learning a decade ago. This was only in my head and like 1-2 YouTube videos

— u/mfb1274 (5 points · permalink)


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